College Bball Thread

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I must have missed that post in the app. Thanks. Now back to the regularly scheduled topic.

[OliviaPope40]

Can we please hurry up I can't wait any longer.

[janaslama]

I can't even sign in to see anything on the app so not a fan!! 

[Uspshoosier]

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/indiana-university/crown-point-s-grant-gelon-unhappy-about-treatment-at-indiana/article_bfe85faa-0936-5407-b1c0-11ef2705bec9.html?utm_content=bufferdd1e2

gelon interview 

[Hoosierfan2017]

""After working with our team during of the first month of their tenure, our coaches met with each player to discuss their role and each player’s own expectations for the future. Grant was made aware that our staff believed his abilities were not of the caliber that would allow him to receive playing time of any kind in the future for the IU program. He asked for and was granted a release from his scholarship. The staff told him we would assist him in any way possible in finding a program that would allow him to make the type of on-court contribution he was hoping for and expecting, at another institution. He also was advised that his full four-year athletic scholarship would be honored if he chose to remain as a student at IU. Coach Miller believes honesty in evaluating talent, while often difficult, is the appropriate measure to take at all times and in the best interest of each player. We wish Grant the best as he continues to pursue his education and college basketball career."" 

Ehh... I don't really have a problem with that. Gelon is not a Big 10 caliber player and Archie isn't one to sugarcoat things. 

[cljones1979]

Gelon could be mad about what he was told and making it sound worse than it was. 

[Alford Bailey]

Gelon should blame Crean not Archie. Gelon wasnt even close to playing at this level and Archie had to be the grown up and say no.

[OliviaPope40]

Looking at Grant he is not a big ten player and he was never going to get playing time and I'm sorry to say this but sometimes kids need to hear the things they don't want to hear which is the truth. Look we all know Crean should not have given him a scholarship but at the same time he thought one thing and then got told another. While I can see his point in all of this but Miller and the rest of the coaching staff made the right decision and had to consider other players who were better than he was. 

[schoosier]

Arch was honest to Gelon and offered for him to stay at IU as a student only for free. In the long run for Grant that would have been much better option than State Fair U.

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Iugradman said:

Bad look for Archie. We don't need crap like this at IU. At least treat the kid with respect and courtesy.

 

I imagine that I am considered a purist around here, and yet this doesn't bother me at all. Not one little bit.

The coach that actually did the real disservice to Grant Gelon was Tom Crean. Grant Gelon should never  have been offered a scholarship to a high major school. 

 When Archie told him that truth in a gentle way that any college player should understand, instead of accepting  it Gelon  apparently informed the staff that he wanted to stay and play anyway. At that point the coaching staff told him the truth again, this time with a complete description of every detail in our policy that they would follow. 

You guys want proof that Archie handled the situation professionally? Rob Phinisee, who committed to Archie Miller and Indiana University today, played for the same AAU team and coach as the one who Gelon was advised by. No doubt that AAU coach understood reality far better than Tom Crean or Grant Gelon.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I feel bad for a misguided Grant Gelon here BUT it was clear to the world that this wasn't a match.  

 

I dont have a problem at all with the way Arch handled it.  He saved Grant 3 years by being honest.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I said from day 1 this was a mistake.  Never changed my mind and ended up more than right.  

Crean would have tried to find a way to force this to work to prove himself right but to our University's detriment.   

 

I do wish Grant would have stayed on as a Student but I can understand the desire to play.  

[323SGrant]

47 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Gelon should blame Crean not Archie. Gelon wasnt even close to playing at this level and Archie had to be the grown up and say no.

Yep. This is absolutely on Crean.

[GloryDays]

On 8/18/2017 at 7:01 PM, iufaninillinois said:

OFF TOPIC: is anyone else having problems logging in on either Tapatalk or the Btownbanners App. I cant log onto either. I even changed my password. I can log into Btownbanners on my laptop, but not either app.

Sorry for hijacking the thread

Same here.I cant log in on my android.

 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Crean really f'd this one up. 

In the article, Gelon's high school coach says he has plenty of D1 options. So where were they? He's not transferring to a high major, a mid major, or any major. He's going to some godforsaken State Fair community college. That tells you all you need to know. 

Gelon had one year at a basketball mecca. I'm not saying he shouldn't be upset but he had a chance to prove he belonged and didn't get it done. Plenty of unranked  guys end up on Big Ten rosters and earn playing time. Grant didn't. Time to grow up and move on. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I have NO problem with this. Archie gave him a chance to see what he could do, but most knew he was no where near talented enough. I would have killed for his oppurtunity knowing that Ancila where I played at isn't much worse than where he is going now. He had zero D1 interest. Kid is bitter and is gonna say all the things he can about us and Archie. He was Crean's guy. I wouldn't blame any coach for this with any player. He was still going to allow him to keep his scholly and go to school. What is the problem?

 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

This is exaxtly why I wanted Archie. He knows who can and can't play at this level. A shooter can't shoot if he can't do anything else. In Archie's defense I can't say a word cause like I posted awhile before this happened I would have done the same thing. 

 

[Hoosier Guy]

Gelon is saying all this to grab attention. He's trying to get people to feel sorry for him. Archie did what he had to do. This all goes back to Crean anyway

[Uspshoosier]

In the meeting Gelon told the new staff he deserved and felt he should of gotten more playing time last year(nothing wrong wih him feeling that way) CAM told him he didn't see that happening.  He asked for release to see what other major  programs would be interested.   No D1, D2, or even really good NAIA teams were interested so he went to State Fair community college.  This is all from a post by Rabjohns   

 

[Hardwood83]

Seems he (and his parents) are griping about the way it was handled. It's not realistic they are going to publicly agree that Grant was in over his head. As others mentioned, all he did was take advantage of an opportunity. 

I suspect that no matter what they wouldn't be happy with the situation, which is totally understandable, but not really "news".