College Bball Thread

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

List of those who have declared for the Draft.

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

That’s the fun with positionless basketball. There will be a couple of PG. A couple of true bigs. And a lot of wing type players that can play/guard multiple positions. Al can play 1-3. Jerome Hunter can play 2-4. Leal and Galloway will play mostly 2-3 as freshman. Anderson isn’t playing. Lander is a 1-2. Smith is 3-4. TJD is a 4-5. Brunk is a 5. I am with you we need more shooters. My guess is if we go that route they will be a 2-3. Starting next year for a couple of years we will go after bigs and it already started. I guess in 2022 we will go after another big. Probably another PG too.


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Anyone can play any position, but you need to at least be good at it to be considered a multi position player. Phinisee is a point guard solely. Durham can play the 2-3 but should never be playing the 1 or be a primary ball handler. Hunter can play the 3. Don’t think we’ve ever gotten to see him play in a lineup where he’d be the 4. Smith is a 3-4. TJD is a 4-5. Brunk a 5. Franklin a 2-3. Leal a 2-3. Galloway a 2-3. Geronimo a 2-3. Lander a 1-2.

We’re going to have Durham, Franklin, Leal, Lander, Galloway, Geronimo(6 guys) who can all play the 2 and Smith, Hunter, Durham, Franklin, Leal, Galloway, Geronimo who can all play the 3(7 guys). That sounds like an Archie type of roster. We have two guys who should be playing the 5 and the 5 only in TJD and Brunk. I think Smith and Hunter need to be getting a lot of time at the 4 for athleticism and versatility. But if say Smith is at the 4 then you have 6 guys basically to choose to play the 2 and 3 at any given time. Depth won’t be an issue.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Some Indiana Mr Basketball stats from their freshmen years. Hulls, Harris and Guy shoot better from 3 than anyone on our team from last season. Compared to our best shooter Durham who shot 38.3% on 2.9 attempts. Hulls did it on 3.8 attempts, Harris on 4.6 and Guy on 3. Had Durham shot 49.5% like Guy, he’d have scored 36 more points which would have put him at an average of 10.9 points per game. So a full point more per game.



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[JerryYeagley23]

5 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

List of those who have declared for the Draft.

 

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Thanks. Two random observations:

-Goodness the SEC had a lot of early entrants. Mizzou sending three early from a team that wasn’t .500??

- Arizona with four leaving early. To me, they have been an example of a program trying to play the one and done game unsuccessfully. They churn five-stars, but never really get the one-year results to make it worth it. 

[ap2345]

This isn’t D1 news but Steve Alford’s son Kory has been named the new head coach at Huntington University.


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[mdn82]

This isn’t D1 news but Steve Alford’s son Kory has been named the new head coach at Huntington University.


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We used to have a pretty successful team. Curious to see how this goes.


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[Stuhoo]

Richards and Quickley leaving UK too. 

Quite literally, it’s looking very much like UK will have exactly one player who has ever played for them; Keion Brooks.

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Richards and Quickley leaving UK too. 
Quite literally, it’s looking very much like UK will have exactly one player who has ever played for them; Keion Brooks.
 

And they’ll still be a Top 15 team next season.


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[Stuhoo]

40 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And they’ll still be a Top 15 team next season.


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Maybe to start the season. Why? I have NO idea whatsoever.

Riddle me this; how often is UK's end of season ranking as good as their pre-season ranking? I haven't looked it up, but I'm pretty sure the answer is "almost never."

 

[ebridges24]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Richards and Quickley leaving UK too. 

Quite literally, it’s looking very much like UK will have exactly one player who has ever played for them; Keion Brooks.

 

I wish, somehow, some way he wouldn't be able to field a team due to everyone leaving.

[Stuhoo]

28 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Maybe to start the season. Why? I have NO idea whatsoever.

Riddle me this; how often is UK's end of season ranking as good as their pre-season ranking? I haven't looked it up, but I'm pretty sure the answer is "almost never."

 

 

Okay ...I looked it up.

For the past ten years UK's pre-season AP rankings have been:

11, 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 2, and 2.

For the past ten years UK's end of season AP rankings have been:

11, 1, Not Ranked, Not Ranked, 1, 10, 6, 18, 7, and 8.

 

Nothing to sneeze at, but nowhere near the pre-season hype.

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

 
Okay ...I looked it up.
For the past ten years UK's pre-season AP rankings have been:
11, 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 2, and 2.
For the past ten years UK's end of season AP rankings have been:
11, 1, Not Ranked, Not Ranked, 1, 10, 6, 18, 7, and 8.
 
Nothing to sneeze at, but nowhere near the pre-season hype.
 

From what I looked up
2020: Pre- 2, End- 8
2019: Pre- 2, End- 7
2018: Pre- 5, End- 8
2017: Pre- 3, End- 5
2016: Pre- 2, End- 10
2015: Pre- 1, End- 1
2014: Pre- 1, End- NR(ended up in weird title game)
2013: Pre- 3, End- NR(Lost to Robert Morris in NIT. LOL)
2012: Pre- 2, End- 1
2011: Pre- 11, End- 11

So they’ve started every year except 2011 in the Top 5. Which is wild. And they’ve only ended outside the Top 10 3 times and one being 11th. Also wild.
To go a little further...
2010: Pre- 4, End- 2(Cals first year)
Gillespie years....
2009: Pre- NR, End- NR
2008: Pre- 20, End- NR
Last 2 Tubby years...
2007: Pre- 22, End- NR
2006: Pre- 9, End- NR


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

 
Okay ...I looked it up.
For the past ten years UK's pre-season AP rankings have been:
11, 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 2, and 2.
For the past ten years UK's end of season AP rankings have been:
11, 1, Not Ranked, Not Ranked, 1, 10, 6, 18, 7, and 8.
 
Nothing to sneeze at, but nowhere near the pre-season hype.
 

I’d take that all day everyday. That is a team with legit title hopes 8/10 years. Good research Stu!


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I’d take that all day everyday. That is a team with legit title hopes 8/10 years. Good research Stu!


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Granted I do like having older teams. But look at Virginia, have a great season players will go to the NBA even if they didn’t seem like NBA guys.

Getting old and staying old is only part of the solution. If that is your plan, you have to have a few stars to put you on top.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

25 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Okay ...I looked it up.

For the past ten years UK's pre-season AP rankings have been:

11, 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 2, and 2.

For the past ten years UK's end of season AP rankings have been:

11, 1, Not Ranked, Not Ranked, 1, 10, 6, 18, 7, and 8.

 

Nothing to sneeze at, but nowhere near the pre-season hype.

 

I'm interested in how that shakes out for other teams as well. Pre-season rankings can be a crap shoot, but both starting and ending the season in the top 10 in six of the past ten seasons is pretty dang good. 

[Uspshoosier]

https://watchstadium.com/transferring-up-proves-to-be-a-challenge-for-most-mid-major-hoopers-04-13-2020/


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[Hoosier1984]

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/29031072


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[Stuhoo]

Rumors circulating that top ten uncommitted recruit Jalen Green and UK top five incoming recruit Terrence Clarke may both skip college altogether.

 

[JerryYeagley23]

9 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Rumors circulating that top ten uncommitted recruit Jalen Green and UK top five incoming recruit Terrence Clarke may both skip college altogether.

 

Why not. If you’re only planning on playing one year in college, and there’s a chance that season will be shortened or you might not be able to play in front of crowds - might as well let a G-league or European team pay you a little bit of money and bank on professional teams being able to have more control over when you can get back in the gym and work on your game. I still think the NBA and other professional leagues have a greater incentive to get guys playing basketball sooner than college programs which may be hamstrung by cautious universities. 

[Hovadipo]

Ooohhhh the tides, they are a’changin.