College Bball Thread

[Hovadipo 56,203]

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,744]

He's over the hill.  He's lost his edge.  Fire Coach K.

[mamasa 15,302]

33 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

He's over the hill.  He's lost his edge.  Fire Coach K.

Their football is 4-7, volleyball 12-18, men's soccer 7-9-2..... Fire their AD now!  

[HoosierCoop 3,927]

Cameron Crazies are extremely high on my list for the most hated.

[Alford Bailey 12,384]

Dook gave up 65 points in the paint lol.

[mamasa 15,302]

Duke fans pretty salty, some not very high on Hurt (more than I would have expected), and lots of criticism on K.  The most interesting comment that I saw was:

 

Yes, but you have to build a team, not just collect talent.

K has been a talent collector the last half-decade, not a team builder.

[Stuhoo 80,812]

15 minutes ago, mamasa said:

 

Yes, but you have to build a team, not just collect talent.

 

 

So so true. Calipari is into year twelve, and will very likely not it get it done this year.

Nova, UVA? They get it. 

Archie gets it too, and the eventual results will show. You think we've played pretty well so far? Archie thinks our defense kinda sucks so far, and with the veteran group he has that's gonna be addressed and improved. Next year will be even better. I'll betcha that IU and Purdue are two of the top three or four teams in the B1G next year.

The order of progression:

1. Get old. 
2. Stay old.
3. Win a lot, and consistently.
4. And we will.

 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,225]

To borrow a phrase our friend, college basketball always delivers.

USPS needs to copyright it! Lol

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[Brass Cannon 24,801]

53 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Duke fans pretty salty, some not very high on Hurt (more than I would have expected), and lots of criticism on K.  The most interesting comment that I saw was:

 

Yes, but you have to build a team, not just collect talent.

K has been a talent collector the last half-decade, not a team builder.

And that comment got no reaction. It’s like they don’t want to admit it. 
 

K isn’t going to try and build teams like Archie or Tony B or even Jay Wright. It’s more work and takes a bit given their roster. His time is limited. 
 

Anybody else remember how a certain insider reported that Archie had cooled on Hurt?

[DChoosier 8,440]

9 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Stephen F. Austin was 193rd in Sagarin last week.  Duke was #1.  How many people here have jumped on the "Fire Archie" "we don't play anyone" "these wins mean nothing" bandwagons?   Hell, I see a couple posting here now defending Indiana.

Get old and stay old.  Get experience.  Get balanced.  Improve year over year.  Beat the teams you're supposed to beat.   Indiana is in good shape and is just fine.  Uncle Friend has been telling you for a couple of years, now.  We don't need to fire Fred Glass.  We don't need to fire Tom Allen.  And we don't need to fire Archie Miller.   It's all going in the right direction.  Patience will pay off.

I agree with the second paragraph but am still in the camp that does not like the schedule. As mentioned before we do not need a murderers row schedule but a few more 100-150 teams, roughly like Louisiana Tech, instead of the nearly 300 type teams  ,would be nice. Sagarin has our schedule so far ranked at 345. INDIANA has the 345th ranked SOS so far. Those cupcakes are too sweet.  I say this knowing it won’t matter al all if we make the tourney etc but I still would like the schedule tweaked.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,375]

Hurt is still a bad man, imo. Problem is he is 4th option there and they aren’t using his strengths. Carey, Jones, Stanley get all the ball time.


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[Brass Cannon 24,801]

2 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I agree with the second paragraph but am still in the camp that does not like the schedule. As mentioned before we do not need a murderers row schedule but a few more 100-150 teams, roughly like Louisiana Tech, instead of the nearly 300 type teams  ,would be nice. Sagarin has our schedule so far ranked at 345. INDIANA has the 345th ranked SOS so far. Those cupcakes are too sweet.  I say this knowing it won’t matter al all if we make the tourney etc but I still would like the schedule tweaked.

I think it was mdn that did the leg work but the schedule should be tougher next year. 
 

I’ll give Archie a pass this year on it. Trying to incorporate essentially 4 freshmen. Franklin, Davis, Thompson and Hunter. Plus Brunk. Looks like we will run with a 9 rotation and 5 of those 9 are new. Where as next year 8 of those 9 are back 

[Stuhoo 80,812]

7 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I agree with the second paragraph but am still in the camp that does not like the schedule. As mentioned before we do not need a murderers row schedule but a few more 100-150 teams, roughly like Louisiana Tech, instead of the nearly 300 type teams  ,would be nice. Sagarin has our schedule so far ranked at 345. INDIANA has the 345th ranked SOS so far. Those cupcakes are too sweet.  I say this knowing it won’t matter al all if we make the tourney etc but I still would like the schedule tweaked.

 

I think that's where we're headed.

But for this season, we have six of our eleven scholly players who have never been in the IU game rotation; Race, TJD, Armaan, Joey, Jerome, Damezi. We needed to have some glorified 'work things out' games to get our players oriented and into their projected roles.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,744]

Misc. trivia from the Duke loss.

150 game non-conference winning streak ends.  Hadn't lost a non-con game since Sept. 2000 to St. Johns

ESPNStatsInfo says biggest upset in last 15-years.  Duke was a 27.5 pt. favorite.

 

[AKHoosier 6,916]

The past 2 weeks has only confirmed what I thought during the opening week, that NONE of the teams in the Champions Classic are all that good.

Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, and MSU don't look like top 10 teams at all.

[cthomas 6,447]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

I think that's where we're headed.

But for this season, we have six of our eleven scholly players who have never been in the IU game rotation; Race, TJD, Armaan, Joey, Jerome, Damezi. We needed to have some glorified 'work things out' games to get our players oriented and into their projected roles.

 

I think CAM is a lot smarter than some of us give him credit for. He schedules according to the needs of the team and what gives him the chance to get where he wants to go. He has been trying to develop depth in the first half of each game and then plays the most productive guys in the second. He's been able to do that because the competition has allowed him to. I really like how he is managing the program.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,390]

I got a good laugh out of this one. Crean still lacks any amount of self-reflection. Never change. 

 

[JSHoosier 20,215]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I got a good laugh out of this one. Crean still lacks any amount of self-reflection. Never change. 

 

I talked about this with our site manager yesterday, we both got a good laugh out of it.

[DChoosier 8,440]

13 minutes ago, cthomas said:

I think CAM is a lot smarter than some of us give him credit for. He schedules according to the needs of the team and what gives him the chance to get where he wants to go. He has been trying to develop depth in the first half of each game and then plays the most productive guys in the second. He's been able to do that because the competition has allowed him to. I really like how he is managing the program.

I understand scheduling according to the lineup but 345th? It wasn’t that long ago that people were clamoring to add UK, AZ, Kansas type teams and now playing 100-150th ranked teams is deemed too tough.

EDIT: we are 344th, not 345th. Marist is 345th.

[Napleshoosier 10,239]

Kudos to Chris Mack. In his 2nd year! Amazing.


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