Kepner Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Dude Shaq went for 36 and 12 in that game. We had a team. They had Shaq. Not sure that's the game I would cite to prove a point where an undersized center could help us win. If Shaq had a team half as good as we had that season we may lose. Plus the games are called way different now vs then. They don't allow you to body up very much and you can't grab at all. That is why someone as athletically gifted as Hanner gets into foul trouble regularly. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app That was the game plan. Too many teams went at Shaq trying to stop him or shut him down and they would get blown out. Knights game plan? Let Shaq get his points and just shut everyone else on his team down. Shaq wasn't going to beat IU all by himself..and he didn't Quote
8bucks Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Dude Shaq went for 36 and 12 in that game. We had a team. They had Shaq. Not sure that's the game I would cite to prove a point where an undersized center could help us win. If Shaq had a team half as good as we had that season we may lose. Plus the games are called way different now vs then. They don't allow you to body up very much and you can't grab at all. That is why someone as athletically gifted as Hanner gets into foul trouble regularly. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app No it works. We got to the FF without a big and even survived Shaquille going like 10-10 from free throws. If the rest of our team is as good as advertised we can still be good. Not FF good but top 25 good. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Kepner Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Someone help me out with OG. He's got some high major interest, and I see a lot of people talking pretty glowingly about him. I don't know anything about the kid, other than that he's an unranked 3-star. Has he not been seen by scouts? Didn't play AAU? Or is there some other reason he he's been under the radar with Rivals, Scout, 247, etc? I don't mean to question the kid or our recruitment of him. I just honestly don't know why he's ranked where he is (or isn't) given what else I've read about him, which is admittedly not much. I think it just the classic case of someone getting big late. Coach Crean is personally heading his recruitment if that says anything. According to Og's coach, Crean has compared his talent and potential to that of Oladipo's. According to his coaches, he is from a really small town and simply not a lot of coaches get out to see him play. He did play AAU this last year and his AAU team did very well so thats why his recruitment has started to pick up. If you search his name on youtube you will find some videos of him Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm fine with picking up OG, but if people start comparing him with Vic, I'm gone. Unfair to him. And probably not true. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mdn82 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 No it works. We got to the FF without a big and even survived Shaquille going like 10-10 from free throws. If the rest of our team is as good as advertised we can still be good. Not FF good but top 25 good. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI do think we will be better than preseason rankings suggest. I don't want to turn this into a Crean vs Knight or era vs era argument but I have difficulties seeing a team constructed like we have with a pace we play overcoming a team with a quality big. Could that Knight team overcome 20 turnovers with Shaq's 36 and 12 with Nover getting called for hand checks? We did it back then with precision. I think with modern rules Shaq shoots 20 free throws. Our team today would have to hit over 45% of their shots and 15 3s to have a chance without Hanner fouling out. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 Found this: As a junior last season, Anunoby averaged 21.3 points, 9.9 rebounds and 3.4 blocks in 21 games before breaking his wrist last in the season. Also, Averaged 5.3 ppg for Team Thad in 6 games. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners ccgeneral 1 Quote
LazOffTheBench Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Olivia, Hova "Bear Hug" Dipo is tracking OG during this visit. When he finds him, it will be a game-changer. WayneFleekHoosier, OliviaPope40, MemphisHoosier and 3 others 6 Quote
8bucks Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I do think we will be better than preseason rankings suggest. I don't want to turn this into a Crean vs Knight or era vs era argument but I have difficulties seeing a team constructed like we have with a pace we play overcoming a team with a quality big. Could that Knight team overcome 20 turnovers with Shaq's 36 and 12 with Nover getting called for hand checks? We did it back then with precision. I think with modern rules Shaq shoots 20 free throws. Our team today would have to hit over 45% of their shots and 15 3s to have a chance without Hanner fouling out. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think those gaps are what separate the top teams from the top 25 ish where we can get to. Cheaney, Graham and crew were more experience than our top kids but if they can compete well this year and win a game in the NCAA then the following year we might be able to make a bigger leap. I am not a rainbow guy but I think we really should be one of those teams on the cusp of breaking through this year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mdn82 and scots07 2 Quote
ccgeneral Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 OG Anunoby @OAnunoby 22m Good first day in Bloomington LockdownD, 323SGrant, Bowhunter and 4 others 7 Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Can we get a pronunciation? Oh-goo-gwa Ann-oo-no-be ...? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Also, here's an entire game for those that want to watch 45 minutes of OG...http://youtu.be/-akkfUJ2j6M Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ccgeneral and hoosierpap 2 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 That was the game plan. Too many teams went at Shaq trying to stop him or shut him down and they would get blown out. Knights game plan? Let Shaq get his points and just shut everyone else on his team down. Shaq wasn't going to beat IU all by himself..and he didn't Although, Shaq, yes THE Shaquille O'Neil, set the record for FREE THROWS by an Indiana opponent, going 12-12. MikeRoberts and Kepner 2 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm fine with picking up OG, but if people start comparing him with Vic, I'm gone. Unfair to him. And probably not true. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Just not feeling Hovaholt? Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Olivia, Hova "Bear Hug" Dipo is tracking OG during this visit. When he finds him, it will be a game-changer. Okay I was just wondering if we have resources in place. Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Just not feeling Hovaholt? What? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
schoosier Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Remember Matt Nover? He was 6'8" and played center for IU. He even had to guard Shaquille in the tourney (we won). Nover was not a prototypical center and was not really much better than Hanner except he could stay away from fouls. It helped that he had Henderson at PF but as a center Nover helped get us to a FF. We can be good without a stud Center if our shooters and scorers can score. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersUp to now, Nover was much better than Hanner. If Hanner proves he can play more than 5 minutes without foul trouble, he will have improved greatly. Having Henderson on that team helped is a huge understatement since we have no one anywhere near close to Alans scoring or rebounding. That team was solid top to bottom and Nover and Hanner not good comparisons imo. Their height comparable but nothing else. mdn82 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Remember Matt Nover? He was 6'8" and played center for IU. He even had to guard Shaquille in the tourney (we won). Nover was not a prototypical center and was not really much better than Hanner except he could stay away from fouls. It helped that he had Henderson at PF but as a center Nover helped get us to a FF. We can be good without a stud Center if our shooters and scorers can score. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners It just so happens that I watched that entire game on YouTube at work on Wednesday and Nover got abused by shaq. We brought In Eric Anderson early and often to help as well as Henderson and doubled and sometimes tripled shaq everytime. We won because Knight destroyed that zone with Nover flashing to the middle of the paint and dishing or shooting immediately and Anderson and Henderson making virtually every bucket from the baseline. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mdn82 and Josh 2 Quote
Kepner Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm fine with picking up OG, but if people start comparing him with Vic, I'm gone. Unfair to him. And probably not true. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners According to OG's coach, Crean said he got as excited watching OG as he did when he was recruiting Oladipo. Happydaze and BGleas 2 Quote
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