Brad Stevens

[Kentuckysucks]

He's taking a ton of heat for this Brown trade.  Celtics fans are irate and calling for his head. Jeff Goodman is going nuts on X.  Is there still a chance? ;-)

 

[IU Prof]

He lost me at top 8 player in franchise history...

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He's taking a ton of heat for this Brown trade.  Celtics fans are irate and calling for his head. Jeff Goodman is going nuts on X.  Is there still a chance? ;-)

 

Good thing Dolson passed on him. He would have been a disaster at IU. /s

[Stuhoo]

10 hours ago, IU Prof said:

He lost me at top 8 player in franchise history...

Havlichek, Bird, McHale, Cowens, Sam Jones, Cousy, Russell, Parrish, DJ, Garnett, Pierce

Four of them have to go to include Jalen Brown.

[LIHoosier]

Well top 8 since Tatum fan boy hopped on board.

[BtownStrength]

Yeah I'm all for skewering Wonder boy for these moves but top 8 in the history of the freaking Celtics is crazy recency bias. 

[IU Prof]

9 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Havlichek, Bird, McHale, Cowens, Sam Jones, Cousy, Russell, Parrish, DJ, Garnett, Pierce

Four of them have to go to include Jalen Brown.

I think Tatum has to go ahead of Brown too.

[Home Jersey]

Boston fans understandably very upset by his latest moves. Jeez Louise is that an awful trade.

[ronzo4IU]

Nothing but a Masshole now...we dodged a bullet.

[BA47591]

12 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Havlichek, Bird, McHale, Cowens, Sam Jones, Cousy, Russell, Parrish, DJ, Garnett, Pierce

Four of them have to go to include Jalen Brown.

Russell, Bird, Hondo, Cousy, Sam Jones, McHale for sure because they are viewed as career Celtics. With the exception of Cousy 's brief player-coach gig with the Royals. So maybe that was part of the reasoning. 

[American HoosierX]

Two things can be true: 1) Jaylen Brown is not a top 8 Celtic 2) This was an awful trade for the Celtics that made their team worse.

[str8baller]

2 hours ago, ronzo4IU said:

Nothing but a Masshole now...we dodged a bullet.

I read that he deleted his instagram today. His fellow massholes must not be happy. At least he still has dunkn donuts. 

[Kentuckysucks]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

I read that he deleted his instagram today. His fellow massholes must not be happy. At least he still has dunkn donuts. 

He's taken his place alongside Harry Frazee in Boston lore.  It's all over for Brad.

[BGleas]

Now that the initial shock of the trade is beginning to wear off, I think some things are clear. 

I love Jaylen Brown, my kids grew up on "The Jays", but the reality is the Celtics were not going to give him the Super Max extension that he is eligible for this summer. 

They were already struggling with paying him #1 money when he's a #2 on a title team, and the window was closing or even closed on the Tatum/Brown Celtics given new ownership and all of these different "apron" rules. 

The Celtics weren't going to commit to paying him $70M annually as he approaches the other side of 30 and would have had to commit to paying him that at 33-35 years old. 

I love Brown, but Tatum is the better player by quite a bit and teams no longer want to pay two guys the Super Max. 

The package Stevens got in return sucks. But it also shows nobody else was really willing to commit those dollars to Brown either. 

Teams want to reserve the Super Max for top 5 guys, not guys in the 10-25/30 range. 

[AH1971]

6 hours ago, BGleas said:

Now that the initial shock of the trade is beginning to wear off, I think some things are clear. 

I love Jaylen Brown, my kids grew up on "The Jays", but the reality is the Celtics were not going to give him the Super Max extension that he is eligible for this summer. 

They were already struggling with paying him #1 money when he's a #2 on a title team, and the window was closing or even closed on the Tatum/Brown Celtics given new ownership and all of these different "apron" rules. 

The Celtics weren't going to commit to paying him $70M annually as he approaches the other side of 30 and would have had to commit to paying him that at 33-35 years old. 

I love Brown, but Tatum is the better player by quite a bit and teams no longer want to pay two guys the Super Max. 

The package Stevens got in return sucks. But it also shows nobody else was really willing to commit those dollars to Brown either. 

Teams want to reserve the Super Max for top 5 guys, not guys in the 10-25/30 range. 

Brad is ultra-analytical and Brown by the numbers is a net-negative player on the court despite a lot of raw production. 

[Stuhoo]

6 hours ago, BGleas said:

Now that the initial shock of the trade is beginning to wear off, I think some things are clear. 

I love Jaylen Brown, my kids grew up on "The Jays", but the reality is the Celtics were not going to give him the Super Max extension that he is eligible for this summer. 

They were already struggling with paying him #1 money when he's a #2 on a title team, and the window was closing or even closed on the Tatum/Brown Celtics given new ownership and all of these different "apron" rules. 

The Celtics weren't going to commit to paying him $70M annually as he approaches the other side of 30 and would have had to commit to paying him that at 33-35 years old. 

I love Brown, but Tatum is the better player by quite a bit and teams no longer want to pay two guys the Super Max. 

The package Stevens got in return sucks. But it also shows nobody else was really willing to commit those dollars to Brown either. 

Teams want to reserve the Super Max for top 5 guys, not guys in the 10-25/30 range. 

So Brad Stevens knows what he’s doing?

shocking.

[HoosierHoopster]

7 hours ago, BGleas said:

Now that the initial shock of the trade is beginning to wear off, I think some things are clear. 

I love Jaylen Brown, my kids grew up on "The Jays", but the reality is the Celtics were not going to give him the Super Max extension that he is eligible for this summer. 

They were already struggling with paying him #1 money when he's a #2 on a title team, and the window was closing or even closed on the Tatum/Brown Celtics given new ownership and all of these different "apron" rules. 

The Celtics weren't going to commit to paying him $70M annually as he approaches the other side of 30 and would have had to commit to paying him that at 33-35 years old. 

I love Brown, but Tatum is the better player by quite a bit and teams no longer want to pay two guys the Super Max. 

The package Stevens got in return sucks. But it also shows nobody else was really willing to commit those dollars to Brown either. 

Teams want to reserve the Super Max for top 5 guys, not guys in the 10-25/30 range. 

Yeah but I know you’re thrilled to get PG!

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[OGIUAndy]

18 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

So Brad Stevens knows what he’s doing?

shocking.

With all due respect to Stevens, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would say this situation and trade were handled well. So I would say of all his bigger moves, this isn't a great example of Brad nailing it.

[BGleas]

17 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Yeah but I know you’re thrilled to get PG!

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I'll say this. Losing Brown sucks in the fact that the return wasn't what you'd hope for and that he was a homegrown star who had played 10 years for the C's and of course has the Finals MVP.  

With that said, I think the Celtics as of now are better next season than they were last season. If healthy, this isn't going to be some major drop-off. 

They may not win 56 games because the East will be a lot better (Sixers, Pacers, Raptors, Heat will all be better), but this is a playoff team still. 

The roster as of now is better than the roster last season. Tatum replacing Brown is an upgrade, and so far we've replaced Vucivic with PG, Mitchell Robinson and Mike Conley. 

The Celtics aren't a champion contender but it's a better roster than what we had entering last season. 

[IUHoosierJoe]

17 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I'll say this. Losing Brown sucks in the fact that the return wasn't what you'd hope for and that he was a homegrown star who had played 10 years for the C's and of course has the Finals MVP.  

With that said, I think the Celtics as of now are better next season than they were last season. If healthy, this isn't going to be some major drop-off. 

They may not win 56 games because the East will be a lot better (Sixers, Pacers, Raptors, Heat will all be better), but this is a playoff team still. 

The roster as of now is better than the roster last season. Tatum replacing Brown is an upgrade, and so far we've replaced Vucivic with PG, Mitchell Robinson and Mike Conley. 

The Celtics aren't a champion contender but it's a better roster than what we had entering last season. 

I'd have traded Tatum instead. The Celtics would have gotten a lot more for him, because the common opinion is that Tatum is much better. The problem is that the advanced metrics don't support the notion that Tatum is really better. The Celtics played themselves into a 2 seed without Tatum, and the advanced metrics show the Celtics were not good without Brown on the floor.