How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[cthomas]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

To channel USPS…you’ve been subject to mediocrity for two decades. What’s another two years. 
 

DDv gets two more chances to safely make the tourney one time. He’s not going anywhere for two more seasons at least 

Good luck to any coach in any sport coming to IU and having to follow what Cignetti has done here.

[IUHoosier5]

4 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

To channel USPS…you’ve been subject to mediocrity for two decades. What’s another two years. 
 

DDv gets two more chances to safely make the tourney one time. He’s not going anywhere for two more seasons at least 

You, USPS, and Home Jersey are not wrong. I’m just about to turn 30 f’ing years old and the fondest memory I have is my profile picture…sad. 

[iubb]

3 minutes ago, IUHoosier5 said:

You, USPS, and Home Jersey are not wrong. I’m just about to turn 30 f’ing years old and the fondest memory I have is my profile picture…sad. 

30? You a young whippersnapper

[8bucks]

The same people Dolson will need to talk to about NIL $ next year are basically the same ones who would pay the buyout.  DDV likely gets more time but Dolson sits right next to coach and if he will have a good idea if DDV can get it done or not. I think the easier and cheaper path is to bump up NIL a lot and see if we can basically buy a sweet 16 level team for a few years. This takes pressure off and allows the focus and money to go to football. This might allow time for DDV to build IU into a really good but probably not great program. 
 

But if he thinks DDV may not be the guy, I would not be surprised to see a change. Only Dolson knows how strong the interest was from other coaches last year. Only Dolson knows What he hears from DDv as he is coaching. 

[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

The same people Dolson will need to talk to about NIL $ next year are basically the same ones who would pay the buyout.  DDV likely gets more time but Dolson sits right next to coach and if he will have a good idea if DDV can get it done or not. I think the easier and cheaper path is to bump up NIL a lot and see if we can basically buy a sweet 16 level team for a few years. This takes pressure off and allows the focus and money to go to football. This might allow time for DDV to build IU into a really good but probably not great program. 
 

But if he thinks DDV may not be the guy, I would not be surprised to see a change. Only Dolson knows how strong the interest was from other coaches last year. Only Dolson knows What he hears from DDv as he is coaching. 

DeVries buyout isn’t crazy.  It’s gonna be easier to raise that than to raise the money for an elite roster.  
 

Dolson is literally gonna have to cash in all his goodwill from football to get DeVries a competitive roster next year.  

[cbp4iu]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

The same people Dolson will need to talk to about NIL $ next year are basically the same ones who would pay the buyout.  DDV likely gets more time but Dolson sits right next to coach and if he will have a good idea if DDV can get it done or not. I think the easier and cheaper path is to bump up NIL a lot and see if we can basically buy a sweet 16 level team for a few years. This takes pressure off and allows the focus and money to go to football. This might allow time for DDV to build IU into a really good but probably not great program. 
 

But if he thinks DDV may not be the guy, I would not be surprised to see a change. Only Dolson knows how strong the interest was from other coaches last year. Only Dolson knows What he hears from DDv as he is coaching. 

I kind of seeing this direction as well. We have little to no momentum right now for the basketball program. I’m guessing Scott will do everything he can to get this team to be at least 5x better than this team. I think Scott is going to make Darian make some uncomfortable cuts (creaming) to personnel and players. I think Scott will get someone to help him coach and probably make him get another recruiter. I think if DeVries can’t do better with the resources and help provided then he probably gets the vote of confidence and a little more resources to try to figure it out. 

[Golfman25]

8 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

I kind of seeing this direction as well. We have little to no momentum right now for the basketball program. I’m guessing Scott will do everything he can to get this team to be at least 5x better than this team. I think Scott is going to make Darian make some uncomfortable cuts (creaming) to personnel and players. I think Scott will get someone to help him coach and probably make him get another recruiter. I think if DeVries can’t do better with the resources and help provided then he probably gets the vote of confidence and a little more resources to try to figure it out. 

You really think Dolson is going to micro manage like that?   And Devries will accept that?   I doubt that.  They have brought in a player personnel guy. Hopefully that helps.  

[cbp4iu]

35 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

You really think Dolson is going to micro manage like that?   And Devries will accept that?   I doubt that.  They have brought in a player personnel guy. Hopefully that helps.  

I think  Scott will do everything in his power to make it work. He tried doing this stuff with Woody but he didn’t really accept the help. I mean if DeVries wants to be a coach at Indiana University I would welcome all kinds of help. I mean it’s not like his assistant sat the world on fire last portal. It’s not like any of them are helping the last 10 minutes of games. Not helping our defense being one of the worst in the nation since the start of ‘26 calendar year. A team that got 1 offensive board last year. I think yes some micro managing might happen. Honestly, DeVries might want the help. 

[Golfman25]

6 hours ago, cbp4iu said:

I think  Scott will do everything in his power to make it work. He tried doing this stuff with Woody but he didn’t really accept the help. I mean if DeVries wants to be a coach at Indiana University I would welcome all kinds of help. I mean it’s not like his assistant sat the world on fire last portal. It’s not like any of them are helping the last 10 minutes of games. Not helping our defense being one of the worst in the nation since the start of ‘26 calendar year. A team that got 1 offensive board last year. I think yes some micro managing might happen. Honestly, DeVries might want the help. 

There is a big difference between help and telling the coach what to do.  Help is “hey Scott, in this portal era it’s necessary to have a good player personnel guy.  Let’s hire Ryan Carr.”   Vs,  “Coach you need to fire an assistant and bring in this guy, because you basically suck.”   

[Golfman25]

7 hours ago, cthomas said:

Good luck to any coach in any sport coming to IU and having to follow what Cignetti has done here.

Why?  You have the perfect role model.   Yes Cig is one of a kind, but you do just 80% of what he does and you’ll be very successful.   Pick his brain, watch him work — then change and adapt and you’ll succeed.   

[Josh]

I don't understand people thinking that Dolson can fix this.  He's been in charge of this basketball program for 5 years now.  This is Dolson basketball. 

Also the thought that more NIL money will lead to a better roster.  This is the roster that Devries picked.  Give him more money and see more of the same.  Hopefully our new GM will help with that part.

[str8baller]

6 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Coach you need to fire an assistant and bring in this guy, because you basically suck.”

This never works in basketball anyways. It’s not football.  
 

I’m not sure Devries Xs and Os are all that bad anyways. It mostly seems like implementation. He’s not a very good in-game coach. And that to me has always been as much of an art as it is science. Hard to get an assistant to shore that up. 

[Solsberryberries]

We have cheered for a mentally soft (minus a year or two) IUBB program for the last couple decades.

Last night was nothing new.  You can’t blame the refs (who were bad) for a Big 10 loss to a bad opponent when you don’t score for 9 minutes.  That, within itself, is soft.

Excuses are soft.  

Giving up leads-  often mental let down.

Getting pushed off spots and not being physical on cuts-  mental softness.

Guys, our offensive stuff is pretty good.  But if guys aren’t maintaining spacing, cutting hard, etc it’s all a sign of mental letdowns.

Until the team shows some mental fortitude, many IU fans will stay home.  This is the same stinking song we’ve been listening to since the mid 90’s.

[Pagoda]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I don't understand people thinking that Dolson can fix this.  He's been in charge of this basketball program for 5 years now.  This is Dolson basketball. 

Also the thought that more NIL money will lead to a better roster.  This is the roster that Devries picked.  Give him more money and see more of the same.  Hopefully our new GM will help with that part.

Because Scott fixed IU football.  You know, the program he inherited with the most losses in D1 and three total postseason wins.

I get you want to be all mad at Scott, but you can't ignore the 16-0 CFB National Title and the 2x AP National Coach of the Year he hired and retained that did it.

He's been in charge of IUBB for a little over a year -- it basically started when he fired Woody midseason.  

CDD is off to a bad start.  I could be wrong, but I think it's more than likely he isn't the guy.  It sucks.  And having doubts about Scott being able to hire the right bball coach is fair after the start we've seen from CDD.

But acting like there is no way Scott can figure out IUBB after he literally just figured out IUFB doesn't make sense.  Fixing IUFB was way harder, and he more than fixed it.

[Uspshoosier]

If you want hope things can turn around quickly if done right.   Dawkins was all but fired going into this year.  Reports only had around 3.5 million total for a brand new roster.  Flipped it and they are going to make the tourney.    Gates made the tourney in his first year at Missouri and then went winless in conference play in his second year and has now bounced back and his on the verge of making the tourney 3 out of his first 4 years. 

[BGleas]

The IU Basketball administration has been so inept so I won't give them credit for this, but maybe they've stumbled into something with this Carr guy?

Everyone is raving about him and he's a proven NBA front office guy. Maybe put him in charge of the entire operation, including the coaching staff?

Build a real, NBA-style front office with a department of scouts, recruiters, analytics people and NIL experts, and put Carr in charge of the entire thing. 

You then minimize the need for the coach to be the "face" of the program and university, and you just need a real coach. 

You no longer 'need' an Izzo, Pitino, Coach K, etc, etc. The coach doesn't need to be a recruiter, NIL experts, scout, fundraiser, mouthpiece and all of that stuff and can just coach. 

It widens the available talent pool because you no longer need a personality, you just need a coach. 

Make it a pro operation. Outside of the players, the face of the program for the Celtics is Brad Stevens, for OKC it's Sam Presti, for the Eagles it's Howie Roseman and for the Seahawks its John Schneider. 

I don't know, just trying to come up with something. 

[coonhounds]

I said devries needed to be able to win immediately! He hasn't done that. I do not like alot about the style of play. My Fandom is at its lowest level ever. First time ever I dont really have a favorite player and dont even try to watch most games. Hopefully he has a huge off season 

[str8baller]

23 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Gates made the tourney in his first year at Missouri and then went winless in conference play in his second year and has now bounced back and his on the verge of making the tourney 3 out of his first 4 years. 

That’s not going to save Devries. Woody made it 2/3 years and was fired midway through year 4 when we still had a shot at his 3rd tourney. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

We’re probably the highest, or top 3 at worst, spending team on NIL both this year and last that ALSO missed the tourney. Coaches have been given the resources and done nothing with it.

He had to replace the whole roster, fine. Too bad it doesn’t seem that there’s a returning piece with any legitimate promise for next season. 

[cbp4iu]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I don't understand people thinking that Dolson can fix this.  He's been in charge of this basketball program for 5 years now.  This is Dolson basketball. 

Also the thought that more NIL money will lead to a better roster.  This is the roster that Devries picked.  Give him more money and see more of the same.  Hopefully our new GM will help with that part.

No way he gets a big as bad of a Big 10 style fit as Reed Bailey for next season. For the $$$. We might not get as good of a shooter  as Lamar but the bar I feel like it pretty low to not clear to have a better portal this off season. DeVries would truly have to fumble to mess up this bad again.