2025 IUFB Season

[realTomCrean]

1 minute ago, MonteMarcaccini said:

Cig said nothing that happened in the game would prevent Coop from playing in the Rose Bowl.  Rabjohns said in chat that he talked to him post game and there shouldn’t be any concern.

Rabjohns stayed silent on Daley when he was asked several times.

I've seen Rabjohns and Ostermann have been asked several times on twitter as well - silence. When is Cig's next press conference?

[realTomCrean]

Just now, realTomCrean said:

When is Cig's next press conference?

COACH CIGS**

[Pagoda]

IU media/reporters are not allowed to talk about injuries unless IU announces something.  So, we won't get anything direct from them.  

They won't get to ask Cig until the next presser, which is December 22nd.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

No doubt about it that we we've been very fortunate this season with respect to losing players to injuries.  This chart lays it out very nicely.

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

No doubt about it that we we've been very fortunate this season with respect to losing players to injuries.  This chart lays it out very nicely.

Nice chart, thanks.

I also suspect Derek Owings is worth every penny, I'm glad we gave him that raise last year to keep him from going to USC.  Derek's system plus Cig's approach with shorter practices seems to work well (fingers crossed, knock on wood, etc.).  That's vital for us given our roster isn't as deep as some of the big programs we're competing against nowadays...

[Home Jersey]

The other day I was reading the comments on a social media post talking about the GOAT college football coach conversation. The debate was mostly about if one championship at Indiana is enough for Cig to be mentioned in the same breath as Saban. It was 50/50 between people agreeing with that or saying "he needs at least three." 

The fact it's not insane to think IU could win 3 football championships over the next decade is the closest thing to a miracle I've ever witnessed in sports...

[Brass Cannon]

14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

The other day I was reading the comments on a social media post talking about the GOAT college football coach conversation. The debate was mostly about if one championship at Indiana is enough for Cig to be mentioned in the same breath as Saban. It was 50/50 between people agreeing with that or saying "he needs at least three." 

The fact it's not insane to think IU could win 3 football championships over the next decade is the closest thing to a miracle I've ever witnessed in sports...

Yeah needs more than one. But Cig would have the most impressive NC out of them 

[TheWatShot]

Saw a pretty funny meltdown from a Notre Dame fan saying these playoffs are illegitimate without them in it, and if Indiana wins the entire system needs to be scrapped. 

[TheWatShot]

31 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

No doubt about it that we we've been very fortunate this season with respect to losing players to injuries.  This chart lays it out very nicely.

Imagine being 3rd on this list and going 2-10. Doesn't speak too highly of Odom's coaching ability or the players he brought in. 

[Pagoda]

17 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

The other day I was reading the comments on a social media post talking about the GOAT college football coach conversation. The debate was mostly about if one championship at Indiana is enough for Cig to be mentioned in the same breath as Saban. It was 50/50 between people agreeing with that or saying "he needs at least three." 

The fact it's not insane to think IU could win 3 football championships over the next decade is the closest thing to a miracle I've ever witnessed in sports...

Interesting.

IMO, folks have a tough time factoring in the program they're coaching.

I think Nick is the best CFB coach ever, but at Alabama he was stacking mega talent as local car dealers paid players under the table.  There were huge advantages to coaching at Bama (and LSU).  Odds are if Nick coached at IU he would have zero national titles.  It is so much harder here, especially pre-NIL.

It's a fun debate and I don't care what people think.  Personally, I will admit Cig is only in year two of a P4 gig, so it's not unreasonable to say we need to see what he does over the next 5-10 years here before drawing comparisons to the best ever.  I don't really want to talk about this for fear of a jinx, but if he actually won a natty here it would probably be the most impressive achievement in CFB history.  

Regardless, it's awesome this is even a conversation.

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Interesting.

IMO, folks have a tough time factoring in the program they're coaching.

I think Nick is the best CFB coach ever, but at Alabama he was stacking mega talent as local car dealers paid players under the table.  There were huge advantages to coaching at Bama (and LSU).  Odds are if Nick coached at IU he would have zero national titles.  It is so much harder here, especially pre-NIL.

It's a fun debate and I don't care what people think.  Personally, I will admit Cig is only in year two of a P4 gig, so it's not unreasonable to say we need to see what he does over the next 5-10 years here before drawing comparisons to the best ever.  I don't really want to talk about this for fear of a jinx, but if he actually won a natty here it would probably be the most impressive achievement in CFB history.  

Regardless, it's awesome this is even a conversation.

If he ever wins a natty here, he instantly belongs on the Mount Rushmore of CFB's greatest coaches IMO. To turnaround the losingest program in the sport as quickly as he has can only be compared to a video game, lol. Unprecedented.

I don't want to jinx it either but it's awesome to have one of the best college football teams in the country. Can only imagine how great portal recruiting is going to be coming off this season. 

[Pagoda]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

If he ever wins a natty here, he instantly belongs on the Mount Rushmore of CFB's greatest coaches IMO. To turnaround the losingest program in the sport as quickly as he has can only be compared to a video game, lol. Unprecedented.

I don't want to jinx it either but it's awesome to have one of the best college football teams in the country. Can only imagine how great portal recruiting is going to be coming off this season. 

For sure.  I find myself imaging what our recruiting pitch is right now because it must be amazing to cite all the team and individual achievements.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

[cthomas]

As incredible as Cig has been, I think you have to look at things in terms of pre NIL and portal and post both of those. No matter how great a coach is, none of this happens as quickly in the previous era. If Cig was hired and had to coach what Tom Allen left here, I don't think we would be where we are right now. We would have been better for sure but not, in my opinion, undefeated B1G champions in year two.

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, cthomas said:

As incredible as Cig has been, I think you have to look at things in terms of pre NIL and portal and post both of those. No matter how great a coach is, none of this happens as quickly in the previous era. If Cig was hired and had to coach what Tom Allen left here, I don't think we would be where we are right now. We would have been better for sure but not, in my opinion, undefeated B1G champions in year two.

I agree this could not have happened without the current “Wild West” portal “rules”.  Would Hemby and Mendoza, as examples, been willing to sit out an entire year if they had transferred “back in the day”? Probably not. Would MAC/JMU type producers have been willing to sit for a year while also not receiving monetary incentive to transfer. Probably not.

That being said…..that doesn’t detract from anything Cig has accomplished.  ALL poor/mediocre/average programs have also been in the “portal/NIL era” but NONE of them have done what  Cig and IU have done.

[monskisprodigy]

4 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Nothing official yet on Stephen Daley but the chatter is getting more pessimistic.

Could be really bad news about the most impactful, disruptive guy on the entire defense.

I heard he jumped to high five a fan, landed wrong...potential patella injury. 

Horrible if true...to miss the CFP run and potentially impact next year/NFL...

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

As incredible as Cig has been, I think you have to look at things in terms of pre NIL and portal and post both of those. No matter how great a coach is, none of this happens as quickly in the previous era. If Cig was hired and had to coach what Tom Allen left here, I don't think we would be where we are right now. We would have been better for sure but not, in my opinion, undefeated B1G champions in year two.

I understand what you are saying but Coach Cig has been this good at every place he's been a HC. He came into IUFB at the right time with a lot of experience and learned mistakes. The top level brass at IU made the perfect hire and that's what should be looked at in the grand scheme of things. In my experience, getting support at that top is what makes everything work.

The 2023 Allen roster would have been just fine coached by Coach Cig. The D might not be as good but they'd for sure be in the mix. Keep in mind in 2023 they lost 4 one score games and you can count the PSU loss as a one score game in my opinion as well. Sorsby made a huge mistake transferring to Cincy and folks like Isiah Jones, Amare Ferrell, Louis Moore, Jamari Sharpe  and Omar Cooper Jr. are proving that roster wasn't that bad. I often wonder how folks like Matthew Bedford (transferred to Oregon), Zach Carpenter (transferred to Miami), Trent Howland (transferred to OkSt), Cam Camper (transferred to Boise St.) would have panned out under Coach Cig because all of these cats contributed. They for sure would have developed under a Coach Cig staff. But man, that 2023 offensive line (Bedford, Benson, Carpenter, Katic, Smith) would have won a ton of games for us under Coach Cig. 

Bottom line coaching matters. 

[J34]

Sounds like bad news coming soon. 

[realTomCrean]

3 minutes ago, J34 said:

Sounds like bad news coming soon. 

I am guessing you saw DD's tweets? 

[southsidehoosier]

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