New Basketball Staff Thread

[Brass Cannon 25,382]

28 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Win at all costs!  In society it is ok to not have ANY rules.  Screw your neighbor.  Holders of the public trusts do not have to take care of those trusts.  Teachers can say and do anything as long as students move on.  Institutions do not have to do what they are by law charged to do.  Universities, that represent ideals and are responsible to political jurisdictions do not have to try to teach and improve the lives of students.  We are not on this Earth to help one another.  Grab what you can.  

Wrong on many levels.

He hardly said most of that.  Nice straw man argument. 
 

Sampson was beloved during his time. The majority of the fanbase has retroactively turned him into a maniacal Disney villain to help rationalize losing him. 

[Papacap 1,970]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

He hardly said most of that.  Nice straw man argument. 
 

Samson was beloved during his time. The majority of the fanbase has retroactively turned him into a maniacal Disney villain to help rationalize losing him. 

I’d don’t think he is some villain but this narrative that IU was the bad guy here is silly. IU hired him after he cheated at OU and then he cheated again. Didn’t make him a villain. Does make him a two time caught cheater. He did his time and it’s over. I don’t have any ill will towards him but I also don’t blame IU. So let’s get a great staff and get IU to where we want to be. 

[Home Jersey 15,592]

33 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Win at all costs!  In society it is ok to not have ANY rules.  Screw your neighbor.  Holders of the public trusts do not have to take care of those trusts.  Teachers can say and do anything as long as students move on.  Institutions do not have to do what they are by law charged to do.  Universities, that represent ideals and are responsible to political jurisdictions do not have to try to teach and improve the lives of students.  We are not on this Earth to help one another.  Grab what you can.  

Wrong on many levels.

If you feel this way about a basketball coach I can only imagine how you feel watching the news every day. 

[str8baller 7,380]

9 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

He was interviewed the other day, talked about his decision to come back to college after 5 years in the nba. He said he had a lot of interest but wanted to be at a school where he could trust the leadership and know they had his back.

That sounds like something dumb enough to be said by Kelvin Sampson. IU trusted Sampson to do something very simple : abide by the very plainly stated terms of his contract which included not violating the probation he was on. 
 

But he was such a small-time nervous loser he couldn’t even be trusted to do that. Kind of like how his players can’t trust him to draw up a coherent offensive play at the end of a big game.  
 

I wouldn’t trust Kelvin Sampson’s opinion in matters of trust. I do trust CDD to do something very simple and bring in assistants who can do the same.

[coonhounds 10,544]

So we are discussing the dude from 17 years ago? Cool.

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[MrBBall 971]

28 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

He hardly said most of that.  Nice straw man argument. 
 

Sampson was beloved during his time. The majority of the fanbase has retroactively turned him into a maniacal Disney villain to help rationalize losing him. 

Sampson had terrible judgement in players. Those players were awful for the program. I mean really bad. His testing was the equivalent of tax evasion for Capone. They were right to move on. He ****ed it up for the rest of us, not the other way around. 

[HinnyHoosier 6,586]

*checks thread title*

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,108]

Enough about Kevin/Kelvin/Kernel Sampson.  This is a thread to discuss our 25-26 staff.  If you want to continue Sampson convo please do so in another thread.  Thank you.

[Stuhoo 88,896]

5 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

*checks thread title*

 

+1

Guys - a discussion about Sampson is all good, but let's keep this thread for discussion of the new IUBB staff.

Thanks

[Stuhoo 88,896]

(In Woody voice) ... "AGAIN"

Already started hiding off-topic posts.

Please discuss Sampson in an appropriate thread, or start a new thread for it. But leave the new coaching staff thread for on-topic posts.

Thanks again.

[Chris007 61,991]

Texas Tech coach is out. Let's see who is up next. Having trouble trying to pay a lot of money to assistants when they take our offer back to their head coach and get raises. 

[Hoosier987 2,723]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Texas Tech coach is out. Let's see who is up next. Having trouble trying to pay a lot of money to assistants when they take our offer back to their head coach and get raises. 

Is Murphy still in play?

[HoosierBoiler 367]

Just now, Hoosier987 said:

Is Murphy still in play?

If he isn’t our coach yet I doubt it

[Chris007 61,991]

1 minute ago, Hoosier987 said:

Is Murphy still in play?

I don't think so, but some do. 

[HoosierBoiler 367]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't think so, but some do. 

Need to learn how to close on ball players too. 

[Chris007 61,991]

1 minute ago, HoosierBoiler said:

Need to learn how to close on ball players too. 

Yeah it seems that both players and coaches have taken our offers and went back to get more money from others

[8bucks 7,504]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Texas Tech coach is out. Let's see who is up next. Having trouble trying to pay a lot of money to assistants when they take our offer back to their head coach and get raises. 

If we offer $800k are they getting an equal match or enough of a match to stay put?  I suspect the latter but if not, then we may be underestimating how much $ we have compared to others.  May have to shop the scrap heap for coaches out of work.

[Chris007 61,991]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

If we offer $800k are they getting an equal match or enough of a match to stay put?  I suspect the latter but if not, then we may be underestimating how much $ we have compared to others.  May have to shop the scrap heap for coaches out of work.

I think they're getting matched our a raise, but not 100% sure on that. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,495]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Texas Tech coach is out. Let's see who is up next. Having trouble trying to pay a lot of money to assistants when they take our offer back to their head coach and get raises. 

does anyone know if that hurts our chances with Wilkerson? 

[HoosierBoiler 367]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

does anyone know if that hurts our chances with Wilkerson?