Transfer Portal w/IU Interest

[Demo]

31 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yep. IU is going to need one to commit because they want to be the ones to turn it around.   If this is a basketball decision then it’s Houston by a long shot 

Doesn’t that feel like kind of a strange fit for Sampson to go after? He’s always gone with these strong, physical dudes who body everyone defensively and puts multiple facilitators on the floor pretty much all the time and and now he’s looking at a 180lb kid who really pounds the ball? I can’t think of an example off the top of my head of him running with that kind of kid. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

29 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

So if our first 4 transfers are:

Burton

Brumbaugh

Olsen

Estrella

What's the temperature on those 4?

Athleticism still would be an issue, but would be a significant talent increase at the PG and C position. 

This is great, if Olsen is off the bench and we have a real B1G 4 man. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

Doesn’t that feel like kind of a strange fit for Sampson to go after? He’s always gone with these strong, physical dudes who body everyone defensively and puts multiple facilitators on the floor pretty much all the time and and now he’s looking at a 180lb kid who really pounds the ball? I can’t think of an example off the top of my head of him running with that kind of kid. 

Case of old dog learning a new trick? 

[cbp4iu]

If we miss on Burton… I would shift to a younger but proven PG. I personally would like guys with more yrs left over maybe some guys that won’t be around in ‘27-‘28. With expanded tourney on the Horizon… You might be able to get away with a team that’s younger this season and sneak in. 

[IUCrazy2]

8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It appears we target a recruit, show interest, then get a price and back out.

This explains what I was trying to say about Vaaks, Harris, and maybe Harrelson last night.  That’s why agents are listing us, but the reality is we are priced out.   Maybe not for Harrelson yet.  Bidunga, several others.  

I think this is a problem that goes back to how Woodson and his buddies approached team building too.  I think the staff is just going to have to bite the bullet, pray they get enough to slide by this year, and then take some time to build because they effed up their first year.  We are basically back to year one because of the first year fumble.  You cannot go into the portal every year announcing you have a fat wad of cash and have more than 5 positions to fill every year.  You get used to increase contracts that other schools who are zeroing in on a couple guys are going to be able to outspend you for.

The most disappointing thing about Indiana is that we spend an @$$ load of money to have all these brilliant minds involved in helping with the program but they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

[Hardwood83]

31 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

So if our first 4 transfers are:

Burton

Brumbaugh

Olsen

Estrella

What's the temperature on those 4?

Athleticism still would be an issue, but would be a significant talent increase at the PG and C position. 

6/10. I'm not sold on Olsen as a starting B1G PF. As someone else said, that sure feels like Tucker 2.0. Is Estrella a significant talent increase at C? IUBB had 99 problems, but Alexis ain't one.  

A lot will depend on who ends up at the other spots. Is Dorn starting at 3, will there be a competent back-up C & PG? 

I wouldn't panic at that list for certain, but Olsen is not an encouraging start, IMO. I felt the same about Bailey last year.

[cbp4iu]

2 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

6/10. I'm not sold on Olsen as a starting B1G PF. As someone else said, that sure feels like Tucker 2.0. Is Estrella a significant talent increase at C? IUBB had 99 problems, but Alexis ain't one.  

A lot will depend on who ends up at the other spots. Is Dorn starting at 3, will there be a competent back-up C & PG? 

I wouldn't panic at that list for certain, but Olsen is not an encouraging start, IMO. I felt the same about Bailey last year.

Another thing is…. It would feel too SR loaded again….

[Home Jersey]

2 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

6/10. I'm not sold on Olsen as a starting B1G PF. As someone else said, that sure feels like Tucker 2.0. Is Estrella a significant talent increase at C? IUBB had 99 problems, but Alexis ain't one.  

A lot will depend on who ends up at the other spots. Is Dorn starting at 3, will there be a competent back-up C & PG? 

I wouldn't panic at that list for certain, but Olsen is not an encouraging start, IMO. I felt the same about Bailey last year.

If Sisley can't start over Olsen next year that spells bigger issues IMO. Would be surprised if starting Olsen is the plan

[CSP]

1 minute ago, cbp4iu said:

Another thing is…. It would feel too SR loaded again….

why? We'd have 3 SRs

[Hardwood83]

35 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I think this is a problem that goes back to how Woodson and his buddies approached team building too.  I think the staff is just going to have to bite the bullet, pray they get enough to slide by this year, and then take some time to build because they effed up their first year.  We are basically back to year one because of the first year fumble.  You cannot go into the portal every year announcing you have a fat wad of cash and have more than 5 positions to fill every year.  You get used to increase contracts that other schools who are zeroing in on a couple guys are going to be able to outspend you for.

The most disappointing thing about Indiana is that we spend an @$$ load of money to have all these brilliant minds involved in helping with the program but they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

I tend to agree with you, but this isn't just IU. Kansas and Tennessee rosters are in the same- or worse- position. Over half of D1 college bball players are in the portal. So, I think it's more a systemic issue, than purely IU, we just have 25yrs of mediocrity leading up to it that amplifies the suck. 

[tyappleg]

6 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

6/10. I'm not sold on Olsen as a starting B1G PF. As someone else said, that sure feels like Tucker 2.0. Is Estrella a significant talent increase at C? IUBB had 99 problems, but Alexis ain't one.  

A lot will depend on who ends up at the other spots. Is Dorn starting at 3, will there be a competent back-up C & PG? 

I wouldn't panic at that list for certain, but Olsen is not an encouraging start, IMO. I felt the same about Bailey last year.

Yes, Estrella is a big upgrade over Alexis.

3 inches taller and averaged more points and rebounds than Alexis as a sophomore on an elite 8 team. There's a reason he is a top 25 portal name. 

[str8baller]

19 minutes ago, Demo said:

Doesn’t that feel like kind of a strange fit for Sampson to go after? He’s always gone with these strong, physical dudes who body everyone defensively and puts multiple facilitators on the floor pretty much all the time and and now he’s looking at a 180lb kid who really pounds the ball? I can’t think of an example off the top of my head of him running with that kind of kid. 

That was my initial impression. And 180lbs might be generous for Burton

[Home Jersey]

Primary options: Burton, Estrella 

Money ball candidates for 3rd option: Starting CG, athletic stretch 4(?), dynamic wing (?)

Affordable role players: Olsen, back up PG

Last spot: Lotto ticket on a Euro? Cheap proven production from low major or D2? 

[cbp4iu]

8 minutes ago, CSP said:

why? We'd have 3 SRs

Olsen

Burton

Brumbaugh

Dorn

Without knowing the rest of our team. I guess I would be fine but would like the rest of our scholarships used on younger players after that. 

[Kentuckysucks]

24 minutes ago, Demo said:

Doesn’t that feel like kind of a strange fit for Sampson to go after? He’s always gone with these strong, physical dudes who body everyone defensively and puts multiple facilitators on the floor pretty much all the time and and now he’s looking at a 180lb kid who really pounds the ball? I can’t think of an example off the top of my head of him running with that kind of kid. 

Or he's still very bitter about 2008, knows Burton is our topic target, and is willing to significantly overpay or at minimum, make us overpay.  Sampson is a very slick dude.

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, cbp4iu said:

Olsen

Burton

Brumbaugh

Dorn

Without knowing the rest of our team. I guess I would be fine but would like the rest of our scholarships used on younger players after that. 

I think Burton can get a second year because of his injury this year, may be mistaken though

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

Or he's still very bitter about 2008, knows Burton is our topic target, and is willing to significantly overpay or at minimum, make us overpay.  Sampson is a very slick dude.

Yes he is, however, IMO in 2026, 0 shot anything he does is remotely influenced by what IU does.

[Demo]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

That was my initial impression. And 180lbs might be generous for Burton

Closest thing I could come up with was Mookie Blaylock about a million years ago and even he was really strong and 1 of the best defenders in the country. The portal guy who feels like the perfect Sampson guard is Mingo. Maybe the shooting never comes but that kid’s a bada$$.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think Burton can get a second year because of his injury this year, may be mistaken though

My understanding as well

[Rico]

42 minutes ago, Demo said:

Doesn’t that feel like kind of a strange fit for Sampson to go after? He’s always gone with these strong, physical dudes who body everyone defensively and puts multiple facilitators on the floor pretty much all the time and and now he’s looking at a 180lb kid who really pounds the ball? I can’t think of an example off the top of my head of him running with that kind of kid. 

It seems like Burton doesn't fit Sampson's Cougars.  But remember he did have Hollis Price at Oklahoma.  He was like 6'-1" and a 170 lbs. soaking wet.