Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

In what world? or whatever you said... when you're rude, don't be surprised when it comes back to you. 

I respond “in what world?” to a comment about Hanner Perea being a “great bench big” and you respond with a personal attack. So, rich of you to say I’m the rude one. But I’m not going to get into a personal attack sparring session with you. Like I said, have a good one. 

[DChoosier]

36 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Then you fill out your roster with lower paid role players. If the NBA roster is any guide, your 2 or 3 best players should be making the lions share of your money. Everyone else is a lower paid role player. 
 

Obviously CDD didn’t think Dix and Conwell were worth paying that much for. But if you want high end talent you’re going to be paying a high percentage of your total NIL to that player. Flagg and Duke is probably a good example from last year.  You can build a different way by spreading your money around more evenly. There’s nothing wrong with that, but you won’t generally land the high profile guys. Either way, the bench guys are going to be making peanuts that won’t take up much of your total salary. They’re just there to fill out a jersey. 

Obviously?

I don’t think we really know how much we offered, how much other schools offered nor the exact reason Dix and Conwell chose those schools.  
 

I agree with your sentiment that the stars need to get paid while the bench dudes, for the most part, make much less.

[iubb]

4 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

Come on children, play nice. Don't make daddy have to go and get the leather strap and duct tape.

What if thats my kink?
/s

[CSP]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I respond “in what world?” to a comment about Hanner Perea being a “great bench big” and you respond with a personal attack. So, rich of you to say I’m the rude one. But I’m not going to get into a personal attack sparring session with you. Like I said, have a good one. 

no no... You act concensending af. Don't play the "I did nothing" card lol 

I agree, you are the rude one. 

[HoosierX]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm not sure why you posted his SO stats. 

19 mins-- 7p 4r--- pretty good numbers for what should have been a bench big. 

lol you sound soft

Because it took him several years to get there and there was no guarantee he would develop. You can't take the stats after several years of development and say that it proves his floor was high, it makes literally zero logical sense. His floor was where he came in at, which was a very low level.

[iubb]

2 minutes ago, FightFor6 said:

This board is a great reminder that people live completely different realities. It's fascinating.

[Hoosierfan2017]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

no no... You act concensending af. Don't play the "I did nothing" card lol 

I agree, you are the rude one. 

Okay I take it back, have a bad one. 

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Because it took him several years to get there and there was no guarantee he would develop. You can't take the stats after several years of development and say that it proves his floor was high, it makes literally zero logical sense. His floor was where he came in at, which was a very low level.

Good, back to just talking ball....

Any 7ft kid, which Hanner wasn't, doesn't have a low floor. They're rim protection, 5 fouls, and a decent rebounder... at minimum..... specifically this kid. 

[Soulsnipes]

In the great words of Rodney King.......

[str8baller]

2 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Obviously?

I don’t think we really know how much we offered, how much other schools offered nor the exact reason Dix and Conwell chose those schools.  

They’re IU’s only two data points so far, so I used them as to not confuse people with further abstraction. 
 

But yea, those two may have had extenuating circumstances. In general, I think college fans are going to have to ditch their coping mechanisms for why kids go other places as money is going to be the primary driver. In this case I’m giving CDD the benefit of the doubt since it seems justifiable to me  that he wouldn’t want over half his money tied up in—and thus our 3 best players be—Tucker, Dix, and Conwell. I don’t dislike that core but I can certainly see why he didn’t go up to…say…$3mil to try getting one of them.  
 

But the larger point being, we may have to go there for Wilkerson or another player because other schools will. It’s a natural progression of things. 

[HoosierX]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Good, back to just talking ball....

Any 7ft kid, which Hanner wasn't, doesn't have a low floor. They're rim protection, 5 fouls, and a decent rebounder... at minimum..... specifically this kid. 

Ultimately it is all about production on a basketball court for Indiana University. Whether or not you can produce on a basketball court today determines where your floor is. If you are defining it differently, then this is a pointless argument.

Tijan Jobe and Bawa Muniru were both 7 footers. They had low floors because their basketball skillsets were basically non-existent. 

[Scotty R]

52 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Then you fill out your roster with lower paid role players. If the NBA roster is any guide, your 2 or 3 best players should be making the lions share of your money. Everyone else is a lower paid role player. 
 

Obviously CDD didn’t think Dix and Conwell were worth paying that much for. But if you want high end talent you’re going to be paying a high percentage of your total NIL to that player. Flagg and Duke is probably a good example from last year.  You can build a different way by spreading your money around more evenly. There’s nothing wrong with that, but you won’t generally land the high profile guys. Either way, the bench guys are going to be making peanuts that won’t take up much of your total salary. They’re just there to fill out a jersey. 

How do you know what we were willing to pay those two players. Dix picked Creighton so he could be closer to his mother who is battling cancer. It was rumored we offered more money but he did the right thing and picked his family. It is surprising we even got a visit from Conwell since his family all went to Purdue and had family tied to Louisville.

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Ultimately it is all about production on a basketball court for Indiana University. Whether or not you can produce on a basketball court today determines where your floor is. If you are defining it differently, then this is a pointless argument.

Tijan Jobe and Bawa Muniru were both 7 footers. They had low floors because their basketball skillsets were basically non-existent. 

neither were any good yes, I couldn't agree more....  I just don't understand what that has to do with Opurum who has shown he has a solid floor. 

those two specifically... never had good numbers 

[iu eyedoc]

27 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I did consider them. The topic is allocation of NIL money as expressed in percentages. You’re getting hung up on the fact that they were able to get good players for cheap. That’s a credit to their coach. But the known quantity was coming out of HS was Flagg and he was able to command a large percentage of the total NIL spend. Gonna be similar for all the best players that hit the open market.  
 

So when you consider nabbing a couple of the best players at $3+ mil each (for example) you’re going to have $6+ mil of a ~$10 mil budget (or 60+%) of your total spend going to 2-3 players.  
 

Getting other really good players for cheap is a bonus.  Coaches will probably study how Scheyer was able to do that and exploit such inefficiencies. Same with Golden and his strategy of pulling productive mid major guys. Everybody is going to have to work to find strategies that allows them to maximize talent for dollars spent.  
 

But that doesn’t take away from the original point: on the open market the best 2 or 3 guys on some top teams are gonna combine for 50-60%+ of a teams NIL. So if you want to get them, there’s your salary threshold. 

LOL, as if Flagg was the only known quantity. They can study all they want. Duke is Duke. Basketball factory, elite education, great fanbase, great campus, 522 of 533 weeks in the top 25 since 1996.

DDV is attempting to do  just what Golden and Kelsey have done and build a "team" not what Rutgers attempted and failed at accomplishing.

Your example of Duke surrounding Flagg with "role players" was just wrong. That is more the Lebron Miami Heat model of star players joining forces.

Until you have success of a Calipari UK, Williams UNC, or Coach K Duke no amount of studying is going to help create that flow of talent coming in below market cash value. Understand Duke offers much more than just the cash.  Until IU offers realistic yearly chances of Final Fours and NBA lottery pick status to suggesting theirs is a repeatable model is laughable.

[BGVille Hoosierfan]

Word this morning is IU has the largest NIL offer out to Wilkerson by a SUBSTANTIAL amount and those that truly have inside connections still have every reason to believe IU is still likely the destination for him. IU also has the largest NIL offer out to Conerway. We are in a really good spot to land 2 of the best guards available in the portal. IMO would be top 3 backcourt in the conference.

[TrueHoosier62]

6 minutes ago, Soulsnipes said:

In the great words of Rodney King.......

Are you talking about him saying, "Hey b!tch, go make me a ham samich"? 

 

 

[AKHoosier]

Is Wilkerson done with his UK official visit?

It would be good to know if he also left that visit without committing. 

[TadQueasy]

Just now, AKHoosier said:

Is Wilkerson done with his UK official visit?

It would be good to know if he also left that visit without committing. 

If it has not blown up here he has not committed.  I think we will know the moment he does something. 

[DChoosier]

I didn’t have posts defending Tijan Jobe’s skill/value on my bingo card for today. LOL

What’s next? An argument that Priller had a sweet stroke from the corner?

[dwtaylor1055]

Just now, AKHoosier said:

Is Wilkerson done with his UK official visit?

It would be good to know if he also left that visit without committing. 

yes he is done and I think at Auburn today