Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Juwan Moye]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

The way the roster is cut now, there is no way for me to NOT see us playing 3 guards consistently. 

The way the roster is now, even if Goode commits, MM is playing some 4. 

Cool, that was one of the points made my str8baller, that the staff would have to make a commitment to do such a thing.

I hope they do, just not optimistic that they do. I expect our starters to be Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, Reneau, Ballo and the bulk of the minutes for those 5 guys to be at their starting position.

[Maedhros]

10 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I’ll rephrase the question:

If we don’t play 3 guards consistently, how do you figure Goode gets 15MPG?

FWIW, Torvik projects Luke Goode for 36% of available minutes if you add him to the Indiana roster. That's 14.4 MPG.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

So then you posted to complain about it so others will have to read about you reading and adding to the 71 new posts. :-) Just messing with you

Yep! [emoji6]

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[Juwan Moye]

6 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

FWIW, Torvik projects Luke Goode for 36% of available minutes if you add him to the Indiana roster. That's 14.4 MPG.

Yep, if we don’t bring in a backup 4/5 guy then it makes sense. But if you do, and that guys is getting 10-15 minutes a game, then the minutes are gone.

If we commit to more 3 guard looks though then yep, Goode at 15 minutes is reasonable. (Which was the point)

[RaceToTheTop]

24 minutes ago, Demo said:

Not sure how much actual IU interest there was, but fwiw.

IU contacted but don’t think it got much past that.  I really like his game but he’ll deserve minutes IU can’t give.  Poor man’s Robbie Hummel.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Juwan Moye said:

Yep, if we don’t bring in a backup 4/5 guy then it makes sense. But if you do, and that guys is getting 10-15 minutes a game, then the minutes are gone.

If we commit to more 3 guard looks though then yep, Goode at 15 minutes is reasonable. (Which was the point)

FWIW, Torvik seems to generate minutes based on last years minutes.  It projected last season that Payton Sparks would play more than Reneau.

[HoosierHuddle]

Assuming Luke Goode commits on Thursday or Friday on his visit, Indiana is left with two scholarships. We know Humrichous is out of the equation and we can safely say that the backcourt is full. 

Elijah Malone is considering IU, Notre Dame and Colorado and most things that I have read indicate Notre Dame has the closest proximity for him plus the clearest path to consistent playing time and the Fighting Irish are the leader. Who knows if that is accurate but it at least makes sense. If Elijah Malone commits to somewhere besides Indiana...that leaves Anderson from FGCU as the only remaining player on the target board and he seems unlikely once Goode commits. 

That will bring up the last hurdle for the coaching staff in terms of roster construction. Ballo is the only true center on the roster and he's has not shown that he can play more than like 28 minutes per game maximum. If we play uptempo with the additions of Rice and Carlyle, that Ballo number probably is more realistically 26 minutes per game to keep him at maximum effectiveness. I really hope the Hoosiers target a player that could give us minutes as a forward or a small-ball center and ideally you'd find a guy that could at least be a threat from three. Obviously, the issue is going to be finding a player comfortable with that kind of role. I'd prefer that to finding a guy that is limited to just center. If that means we go "small" for 10-15 minutes per game, so be it. I think it's nearly inevitable we'll have lineups with guys like Mgbako or Tucker or Goode at "4" with Malik or a guy we have not added yet as the 5. Given our acquired depth at guard, that's a good thing.

[RaceToTheTop]

29 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I’ll rephrase the question:

If we don’t play 3 guards consistently, how do you figure Goode gets 15MPG?

Are you calling Goode a guard?  Because he’s really not — doubt you see any kind of real time with only he and one other guard on the court.  Goode is s SF.

[SamIam]

8 minutes ago, HoosierHuddle said:

That will bring up the last hurdle for the coaching staff in terms of roster construction. Ballo is the only true center on the roster and he's has not shown that he can play more than like 28 minutes per game maximum. If we play uptempo with the additions of Rice and Carlyle, that Ballo number probably is more realistically 26 minutes per game to keep him at maximum effectiveness. I really hope the Hoosiers target a player that could give us minutes as a forward or a small-ball center and ideally you'd find a guy that could at least be a threat from three. Obviously, the issue is going to be finding a player comfortable with that kind of role. I'd prefer that to finding a guy that is limited to just center. If that means we go "small" for 10-15 minutes per game, so be it. I think it's nearly inevitable we'll have lineups with guys like Mgbako or Tucker or Goode at "4" with Malik or a guy we have not added yet as the 5. Given our acquired depth at guard, that's a good thing.

It looks like the staff expects a lot of the "backup" 5 minutes to be taken by Reneau. Ballo played about 26 mpg on Arizona, a team with top 15 tempo, I would expect at least that many minutes on a middle of the pack tempo team like IU. I think whoever they bring in won't be playing much come B1G season, we just need another body as injury/foul insurance. There are plenty in the portal I'm confident they can find one. 

[AH1971]

17 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Yep, if we don’t bring in a backup 4/5 guy then it makes sense. But if you do, and that guys is getting 10-15 minutes a game, then the minutes are gone.

If we commit to more 3 guard looks though then yep, Goode at 15 minutes is reasonable. (Which was the point)

Think you'll see extended stretches with Ballo/Reneau as the only big and Goode/Mgbako as the 3/4. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing either. I still expect the staff to land an emergency 5 in case Ballo or Reneau go down, but the way things are shaking out, Ballo and Reneau will likely start together and then see their minutes staggered.

[ebridges24]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

So then you posted to complain about it so others will have to read about you reading and adding to the 71 new posts. :-) Just messing with you

you're just full of piss and vinegar

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

you're just full of piss and vinegar

Piece of advice:  always label your bottles lest you use the wrong one.

[Juwan Moye]

23 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

FWIW, Torvik seems to generate minutes based on last years minutes.  It projected last season that Payton Sparks would play more than Reneau.

So you’re saying the robots aren’t immediately taking all of our jobs.

[RaceToTheTop]

Mohammed Wague (Alabama) might be a good backup big to contact.  He just entered.  One year at west virgins, 10 mpg, one year at Alabama, 8 mpg.

[Juwan Moye]

17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Are you calling Goode a guard?  Because he’s really not — doubt you see any kind of real time with only he and one other guard on the court.  Goode is s SF.

Cool, he’s listed as a guard but for the sake of playing time, as long as the staff is ok playing him alongside 2 guards, it’s all the same to me.

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

So you’re saying the robots aren’t immediately taking all of our jobs.

No, I’m saying 100110011101.

[Juwan Moye]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Think you'll see extended stretches with Ballo/Reneau as the only big and Goode/Mgbako as the 3/4. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing either. I still expect the staff to land an emergency 5 in case Ballo or Reneau go down, but the way things are shaking out, Ballo and Reneau will likely start together and then see their minutes staggered.

I’ll do you one better: it’d be better than “not a bad thing” it would be a very good thing and would show a shift in approach from Woodson.
Stuff like that would go a long way to showing he’s not as stubborn as many believe, myself included, and could be big in helping to galvanize the fan base.

Here you all have gone and gotten me all excited. Need to go over to “that other thread” to temper myself.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Juwan Moye said:

I’ll do you one better: it’d be better than “not a bad thing” it would be a very good thing and would show a shift in approach from Woodson.
Stuff like that would go a long way to showing he’s not as stubborn as many believe, myself included, and could be big in helping to galvanize the fan base.

Here you all have gone and gotten me all excited. Need to go over to “that other thread” to temper myself.

You didn't really think Reneau and Ballo were going to play 35 mpg together simultaneously did you? Even before Goode entered the picture that was never going to be the case.  

[ray]

4 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I will say some of the people carrying the most water right now were some of the loudest critics back in January. The offseason has been a home run but still a long way to go. 

Hey, Chris, how many bases are you using?  I wouldn't mind seeing a layout of your diamond, if you get the chance.  Thanks!

Edit:  I guess the game isn't over just because someone ran all the bases. 

[hoosiersoxfan]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

You didn't really think Reneau and Ballo were going to play 35 mpg together simultaneously did you? Even before Goode entered the picture that was never going to be the case.  

Looks like Ballo played about 25 minutes per game for Arizona last season.  Malik was at 28 per game for IU.  That surprises me, it felt like he was constantly in foul trouble.