Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Golfman25 6,283]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Last sentence was unnecessary.  The inside doesn’t work unless you have a willing passers and knowing when and how to pass out of a double team.  If IU going to run back that offense the post players will need to do a better job of passing out of the post unlike times last year where it never made it back to the out part of the inside-out 

Don't worry, I'm a big boy.   Woodson sucks at the "inside-out." 

[Uspshoosier 50,221]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

It’s not unnecessary when you’re responding to somebody being purposely obtuse. If you think “inside-out” is a concept used exclusively by Woodson you shouldn’t be allowed to comment on a college basketball message board.

Anyone can comment on anything within the rules on a free college basketball message board.  

[Golfman25 6,283]

3 minutes ago, Trish said:

Woodson recently said the game is played inside - out. Ballo is huge, he’s going to seal his guys early and often. If Malik can step outside an hit a 3 that will be great. But Ballo is layups, dunk-ins, and rebounds. He’s going to be the first if not second option next season. 

Assuming he comes to Indiana. 

Indiana will likely pound the inside with Malik and Ballo. Guards will need to be able to hit the 3. 

lane will definitely be clogged with all those lbs. inside.  

[Demo 21,717]

2 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Looks like Ballo may be getting a handsome BAG per a poster via HSN that typically carries some intel. 

Be it in Bloomington or elsewhere, Ballo’s gonna get a handsome bag somewhere. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,810]

Woodson recently said the game is played inside - out. Ballo is huge, he’s going to seal his guys early and often. If Malik can step outside an hit a 3 that will be great. But Ballo is layups, dunk-ins, and rebounds. He’s going to be the first if not second option next season. 
Assuming he comes to Indiana. 
Indiana will likely pound the inside with Malik and Ballo. Guards will need to be able to hit the 3. 

Maybe just maybe we can use a big body like Ballo to seal his man for Guards to drive and get their own. Haven’t seen that action at Indiana, ever?

Really hoping, and I don’t know I expect it, but really hoping confident guard play, play making, and shot making opens up a lot of things Indiana has been ignoring on offense.


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Just now, Demo said:

You may be generous here. Not sure you can even do it for short stretches. 

We did play some teams, especially non conf, I think it could work. B1G vs other P5-- I think you're right for sure right. 

[Hovadipo 59,311]

39 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Just wanted to add a comment on the bag dropping.

Id recommend the fanbase not villainize the bag dropping from Indiana but instead be happy we can win bag drops now. 

its been going on for eternity in college basketball and for the most part those dropping the biggest bags are winning the most games. 

I can pretty much assure you if we stop dropping bags the fanbase will have a lot more to worry about than we already do.

id recommend embracing it and just leaving it out of the equation. It’s been a part of high level recruiting forever and now it just expands into mid level recruiting as well. 

Be happy we can compete in that for now and cross your fingers the staff uses its salary cap wisely. 

Very well said. At this point in the landscape, it isn’t “do things the ‘right’ way” vs. “win at all costs”. It’s “Be the Oakland A’s” vs. “Pay the going rate”.

The only way a guy makes “too much” is if it’s too big of a dent in our NIL pool and, with this fanbase/donor group, I’m not convinced the pool has a limit right now. 

[Trish 12,646]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

lane will definitely be clogged with all those lbs. inside.  

I doubt Ballo or Malik would be fine coming off the bench, so I imagine they would start together. Under the Woodson leadership we’ve seen, I imagine Ballo will be the first if not second option. 
 

Once they go to a four guard lineup (Rice/Trey/Tucker/Mack/Big Guy), then you’ll see hopefully a more modern offense I would ideally imagine. 
 

If the guards can get Malik and Ballo the basketball while knocking down the 3, then Woodson may have something next year. TBD. 

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14 minutes ago, Jam said:

I don’t know anything, but if supposedly Rice and Carlyle were done deals for a week or so, it seems unlikely to be hosting Hickman and trying to get a Conwell visit, if they didn’t want another guard.

Good point, I had not thought about that. Thanks

[AH1971 2,013]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Oh please.  You have zero idea what I know or don't know.  What I do know is Woodson sucks at the "inside-out" game.  Three seasons prove that beyond any doubt.  

Go look at any "inside-out" teams.  What did they do differently than IU?  

Had guards that could make shots….

[Golfman25 6,283]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Had guards that could make shots….

WTF.   That is what people have been saying for thousands of posts.  The critique here is the two players in question, based on actual performance, are lower on the shot-making spectrum than others, anticipated "jump" be damned.    

[Golfman25 6,283]

4 minutes ago, Trish said:

I doubt Ballo or Malik would be fine coming off the bench, so I imagine they would start together. Under the Woodson leadership we’ve seen, I imagine Ballo will be the first if not second option. 
 

Once they go to a four guard lineup (Rice/Trey/Tucker/Mack/Big Guy), then you’ll see hopefully a more modern offense I would ideally imagine. 
 

If the guards can get Malik and Ballo the basketball while knocking down the 3, then Woodson may have something next year. TBD. 

If you look at our late run, they moved Ware off the block when Malik was in.  Made all the difference. 

[Demo 21,717]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

He better be playing over 30 min if 1.2 million is what it takes to get him.  Trilly said Ole Miss offered 1 mil and IU upped it to 1.2 

I like Ballo a lot but, I can’t lie, dropping low 7 figures on a kid you’re gonna have to sub O for D in endgame situations sticks in my craw a little bit. 

[Stuhoo 85,366]

Just now, Demo said:

I like Ballo a lot but, I can’t lie, dropping low 7 figures on a kid you’re gonna have to sub O for D in endgame situations sticks in my craw a little bit. 

Payne for $600k instead?

[AH1971 2,013]

7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

WTF.   That is what people have been saying for thousands of posts.  The critique here is the two players in question, based on actual performance, are lower on the shot-making spectrum than others, anticipated "jump" be damned.    

Rice and Carlyle combined averaged 26 points a game last year as first year players. Woodson hasn’t had a guard duo combine for 20 points in a single season yet. I can’t help you if you don’t understand what adding dynamic shot makers to this roster means.

[iu eyedoc 3,204]

11 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

That is the definition of cherry picking. You looked at a whole season and wiped out his worst performances. Lol

Freshman wall doesn't really explain away his bad 3pt shooting. He shot .228 against P5 opponents, even just  .291 if you remove the 0  for 22.

 

After November against opponents not named Prarie View, Utah Tech, Eastern Washington, Idaho, Rhode Island, Miss St, he shot just.239 the remainder of the year.

Haven't seen him play a lick, so can't make a fair judgement, but those trying to explain away his poor 3pt shooting by freshman wall or except for... are being disingenuous.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,033]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

I like Ballo a lot but, I can’t lie, dropping low 7 figures on a kid you’re gonna have to sub O for D in endgame situations sticks in my craw a little bit. 

I guess I could maybe see that buuuuut... our in ability to get a Dreb and GO, consistently, was as detrimental as about anytbing offensively last year. 

Rice, Ballo, and Kanaan would rectify that issue QUICK. Off of that, I think MM gets more good shots, if we're functioning how we're suppose to. 

[Demo 21,717]

54 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Just wanted to add a comment on the bag dropping.

Id recommend the fanbase not villainize the bag dropping from Indiana but instead be happy we can win bag drops now. 

its been going on for eternity in college basketball and for the most part those dropping the biggest bags are winning the most games. 

I can pretty much assure you if we stop dropping bags the fanbase will have a lot more to worry about than we already do.

id recommend embracing it and just leaving it out of the equation. It’s been a part of high level recruiting forever and now it just expands into mid level recruiting as well. 

Be happy we can compete in that for now and cross your fingers the staff uses its salary cap wisely. 

You, Sir, have got it. The only difference between now and 40 years ago is that every school’s in the game now and there are market forces in play. There needs to be some regulatory pieces implemented on the unrestrained transfers and I don’t love what’s inevitably gonna happen to mid-majors, but this feels better to me. 

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40 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

You end up like Purdue with a team of guys who can only shoot well and nothing else though. UConn exposed the hell out of them. Rice is a fantastic pick up. You can still think we need more shooting. But getting a building block player, 1st team all conference and freshman of the year... I'll take that talent and bet on him to have good improvement next year 

That’s a good point. I think im being too negative on Rice. You’re right, with only Gallo and a rehabbed Newton, we don’t have any other dynamic ball handlers/defenders. 

[Trish 12,646]

7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

If you look at our late run, they moved Ware off the block when Malik was in.  Made all the difference. 

It’s incredible what modern basketball (spacing) can provide to a team. I personally don’t like the Ballo / Malik fit on offense. But if Malik can step outside and play a bit out there this season, that’s interesting. 
 

But as I mentioned, Rice instead of Johnson should be an upgrade when you’re rolling with a lineup of Rice/Trey/Mack/Tucker/MR. That’s assuming these guys can hit the 3 consistently and key words - more frequently.