Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[IH8PU]

19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not really worried.  That’s 12 more guys targeted than last year.   Staff dropped the ball last year in the portal.  I’m guessing they are targeting more than 12 just might not be hearing about the others.    They seem to have approached this year different so maybe they have communicated with some in the top 12 that they are in a good spot.  Honestly even without the NIL money they would have to really drop the ball if they can’t get at least 4 kids to commit being a B1G school with available playing time. I would find it hard to believe they can’t get 5 talented kids even if it isn’t one of the 12  from the over 1300 kids in the portal.  NIL money should make the job that much easier.   If we get into May with 0 commits then I could see a reason to worry.   

I have to disagree ... won't look up their names but ... one shooter went to UT ... one PF when to UT and then to St Johns before the season started. They "targeted" more than 0 last year, they only got Ware ... so that is at least one "targeted" portal player.

Maybe I am confused by your word "Targeted" ... seeing your post after this one ... "Prioritized" might be what you mean.

Edited April 10, 2024 by IH8PU

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Uh...last year they couldn't find a shooter in the portal, so...

Yeah because they didn’t prioritize it and they thought their shooters were already on the team so…. 
 

they were wrong.   

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, IH8PU said:

I have to disagree ... won't look up their names but ... one shooter went to UT ... one PF when to UT and then to St Johns before the season started. They "targeted" more than 0 last year, they only got Ware ... so that is at least one "targeted" portal player.

Of course they targeted more then 1 I was being over the top with that but they have definitely targeted more this year in the first 2 weeks of the portal then they did all of last year.   Most of their problem was they thought most their needs were already on the team.   Big swing and a miss last year 

[Chris007]

10 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

you got something going on with Calbert??

We'll say he's a family friend

[68Hoosier]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

We'll say he's a family friend

your last name isnt Wilson is it?

 

[dwtaylor1055]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

We'll say he's a family friend

 

 

16 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

you got something going on with Calbert??

they enjoyed the solar eclipse together 

[Chris007]

Just now, 68Hoosier said:

your last name isnt Wilson is it?

 

No but I've drank with Kevin before

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No but I've drank with Kevin before

Who hasn’t? Lol

[68Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No but I've drank with Kevin before

wrong wilson, LOL

[68Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Who hasn’t? Lol

I almost posted that as well.

[68Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No but I've drank with Kevin before

I used to work with a Larry Wilson years ago.  His son was good friends of Calbert's and I thought his name was Chris.  I have lost track of him and was just wandering as I would love to catch up with him again.  

[Silat Player]

18 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah because they didn’t prioritize it and they thought their shooters were already on the team so…. 
 

they were wrong.   

If the coaching staff didn't prioritize any shooters in the portal last year, then they suffered from incompetence of monumental proportions. LOL

The BEST CASE post-mortem scenario of last year was that the coaches left a scholly open unintentionally because they missed out on shooters in the portal.

It would be massive malpractice to think that Woody didn't believe that he needed any more shooters going into last year...

 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Is anyone worried that were only targeting like 12 guys again this year and we need to land half of them to fill the 6 spots? If we fill all 6 which I'm told is unlikely. 

Also, I wonder if it is an IU thing that we have all the players we're interested in making a visit before having them commit. Other programs are getting commitments right now without a kid ever visiting. But at IU we always set up a visit first. I don't need Conwell or Hickman to visit to know that I want them. 

Just my Wednesday morning ponders

I would venture to say that there are players committing to places that had been recruiting them previously and they might have already visited there.  I'm not sure where you are getting the only targeting 12 guys TBH.  The net is much wider this year than last.

I agree that we aren't likely to fill all spots -- not sure that we should unless the last guys are coming in knowing they are end the bench guys.

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

It would be massive malpractice to think that Woody didn't believe that he needed any more shooters going into last year...

 

It was malpractice that most posters called malpractice at the time.   Staff was confident in who they already had on the team.  Leaving an open scholly with the roster they had was definitely a choice.  Not bringing any other guard in unless they thought it was an absolute guarantee upgrade over Trey was definitely a choice….

it didn’t work out for them.   Maybe this year it will 

[68Hoosier]

A closer look at the transfer portal players linked to Indiana - Inside the Hall | Indiana Hoosiers Basketball News, Recruiting and Analysis

 

List of potential transfers.  

[Alford Bailey]

This goes all the way back to Crean. None of these guys who transfer out become stars. Blame the staff for recruiting them but you can squeeze blood from a turnip. Banks and Gunn (along with numerous others over the years) just aren’t very good players at this level.

[AH1971]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Is anyone worried that were only targeting like 12 guys again this year and we need to land half of them to fill the 6 spots? If we fill all 6 which I'm told is unlikely. 

Also, I wonder if it is an IU thing that we have all the players we're interested in making a visit before having them commit. Other programs are getting commitments right now without a kid ever visiting. But at IU we always set up a visit first. I don't need Conwell or Hickman to visit to know that I want them. 

Just my Wednesday morning ponders

I think we're prioritizing 12 guys for 6 spots but have reached out too much more

Realistically, IU needs four transfers. Six is the max they can take. IU needs:

-2 starting guards

-a defensive 5 who can play 25 mpg whether it be starting or coming off the bench

-a shooting guard/wing

-possibly a backup 4/5

We currently have 7 scholarship players, hardly anybody plays an 11 man rotation and absolutely nobody plays 13 guys.

As far as landing two starting guards, I feel confident where we stand with Myles Rice and then between Perkins, Carlyle, Conwell I think there's your second.

I'm confident that we get one of Payne or Williams for your 25 mpg 5.

Hickman and Malone from NAIA fill the 4th and 5th transfer spots. 

Should be noted that guys are still entering the portal in droves. Up to almost 1500 entries with still 23 days left to go.

 

[68Hoosier]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

This goes all the way back to Crean. None of these guys who transfer out become stars. Blame the staff for recruiting them but you can squeeze blood from a turnip. Banks and Gunn (along with numerous others over the years) just aren’t very good players at this level.

Do your think this is becuase we dont evaluate talent properly or we dont coach them into the next level of competition when they arrive.

[8bucks]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Is anyone worried that were only targeting like 12 guys again this year and we need to land half of them to fill the 6 spots? If we fill all 6 which I'm told is unlikely. 

Also, I wonder if it is an IU thing that we have all the players we're interested in making a visit before having them commit. Other programs are getting commitments right now without a kid ever visiting. But at IU we always set up a visit first. I don't need Conwell or Hickman to visit to know that I want them. 

Just my Wednesday morning ponders

Ignoring his approach on the boards and twitter, I think NGW either hears what the staff's approach is or has a wild imagination.  Assuming he knows their approach, I am curious to see how it plays out.  I do think this, including NIL obviously, could help them build a strong team.  It could also fail incredibly. I am fine with either result. 

If the NGW/staff strategy is accurate then we may not know many of the kids we have interest in and have talked to.  After the round of visits if we still have 0 commits and we go to the next round I would imagine the staff will start getting worried. 

[68Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think we're prioritizing 12 guys for 6 spots but have reached out too much more

Realistically, IU needs four transfers. Six is the max they can take. IU needs:

-2 starting guards

-a defensive 5 who can play 25 mpg whether it be starting or coming off the bench

-a shooting guard/wing

-possibly a backup 4/5

We currently have 7 scholarship players, hardly anybody plays an 11 man rotation and absolutely nobody plays 13 guys.

As far as landing two starting guards, I feel confident where we stand with Myles Rice and then between Perkins, Carlyle, Conwell I think there's your second.

I'm confident that we get one of Payne or Williams for your 25 mpg 5.

Hickman and Malone from NAIA fill the 4th and 5th transfer spots. 

Should be noted that guys are still entering the portal in droves. Up to almost 1500 entries with still 23 days left to go.

 

If you had to put names to each spot what is a homerun offseason.  

 

-2 starting guards (??)

-a defensive 5 who can play 25 mpg whether it be starting or coming off the bench  (Payne or Williams)

-a shooting guard/wing (Would this be Tucker or someone in addition to him)

-possibly a backup 4/5 (??)