Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[tyappleg]

23 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

OG

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

I guess I don’t see anyone claiming that the team is doomed, just that they were hoping to make a bigger splash with the resources. Personally I’m not that concerned with those optics but this is an IUBB message board and there’s going to be opinions we don’t always agree with. During the offseason is peak time to be overly analytical / anxious / skeptical. The only point I’m making is you can debate the merits without mocking and people can draw their own conclusion of who is unreasonable or not. 

Serious question… where would they make a bigger splash from? He had to fill out an entire roster. He didn’t have the luxury of having an already established roster where he could fill in 1-2 spots and pay $3-$4m while also bringing in a couple top prospects. I think once he is established for a couple of years then I can see the expectations changing in getting the top prospect guys who you have to pay a crap ton to get

[Jet812]

10 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

The only relevant question is whether CDD has ever hit on any, school is unlikely to play into success rates.

[moyemayhem]

43 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Not a criticism, but have we hit on any of those?

Most considered Oladipo a raw toolsy kid when he was recruited.  Great athlete with very limited skills.

[tyappleg]

3 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Sure but the board is a lot more enjoyable when we can all put the snark aside (I’m as guilty as anyone of that from time to time) and just talk ball. It’s tougher to do that in the offseason but plenty of legit basketball stuff to talk about with a new staff and roster and two more spots to fill. We can disagree without calling each other’s thought processes stupid lol, even if I agree it’s a little reactionary at this point to be unimpressed. 

I'll stick with snark, thanks. 

[schoosier]

Niko Bundalo 6’10” reopening recruitment. OH native do we have room?

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

10 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Niko Bundalo 6’10” reopening recruitment. OH native do we have room?

I definitely think it’s worth looking into and I bet we have the money to pay him

[tyappleg]

For the record, there are plenty of valid reasons to be apprehensive about next year.  We will have 12 new players mostly from mid major level without a ton of size.  Those are all valid.  However, worrying about whether Indiana is preseason top 25 in year 1 of a full team rebuild shouldn't be a concern at this point.

Ending the season in the top 25 is what matters.  If you end the season strong, and bring back 5+ players from that team, that's when you will start getting respected in the preseason. Can this team do it?  I think so; but only time will tell.

I maybe shouldn't have used the word stupid, however I stand by my point. 

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Serious question… where would they make a bigger splash from? He had to fill out an entire roster. He didn’t have the luxury of having an already established roster where he could fill in 1-2 spots and pay $3-$4m while also bringing in a couple top prospects. I think once he is established for a couple of years then I can see the expectations changing in getting the top prospect guys who you have to pay a crap ton to get

Why would having a nearly full roster open up $3-4mm for a couple of top guys? It’s not as if the”existing” guys on a roster make next to nothing. 

[Hardwood83]

2 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

this be like the jerry springer show geez - move this stuff to the right location.  

If we start having paternity test reveals, that would be awesome! 

[AH1971]

10 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Why would having a nearly full roster open up $3-4mm for a couple of top guys? It’s not as if the”existing” guys on a roster make next to nothing. 

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

[Juwan Moye]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

If the report that Game Cupps got $600k from Ohio State is true then you’ve got to assume that most of our players got at least that.

Guys like Devries, Bailey, and Wilkerson are probably closer to $2m than $1m.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

If the report that Game Cupps got $600k from Ohio State is true then you’ve got to assume that most of our players got at least that.

Guys like Devries, Bailey, and Wilkerson are probably closer to $2m than $1m.

Maybe although I highly doubt every P5 bench player is making $600k or even close to that. 

[CSP]

Could you imagine paying 600k for Cupps lol 

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Depends on who is back from your existing roster. A team that returns most of their bench and one or two starters has a lot more money to throw at one or two top level players. Every team likely has a budget and then a max spend if necessary, and I'm sure that not every team fills that budget.

Based on who DeVries has brought in, I would be surprised if IU is at the top of their budget yet...unless they are just wildly overpaying to fill the roster.

I don’t get it. Are you saying you pay more for bench players if they are “new” but the existing bench players accept making less than market value ?

 

 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

I don’t get it. Are you saying you pay more for bench players if they are “new” but the existing bench players accept making less than market value ?

 

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. I would say an overwhelmingly large majority of guys in the portal looking to be paid "market value" end up in a much worse situation.

[68Hoosier]

26 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

If we start having paternity test reveals, that would be awesome! 

Harwood83, you are the father (or mother), LOL

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

page 666.  The end is nigh

[Juwan Moye]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Maybe although I highly doubt every P5 bench player is making $600k or even close to that. 

Sure, but as a thought experiment let's assume we had $10m to build a roster this offseason. I don't know the actual number but this seems a reasonable approximation. Given some of the numbers thrown around it seems reasonable to assume we paid something like the following:

• Tucker DeVries - $2m
• Lamar Wilkerson - $2m
• Reed Bailey - $1.5m

So that's $5.5m of $10m spend leaving $4.5m left to fill out the other 9 spots that we have which would be an average of $500k per player. Given Cupps reportedly got paid $600k you can see how the budget gets eaten up quickly. If we're closer to having a $12m - $13m budget then there's some more wiggle room here but, even then, it's easy to see how we could have already spent all of the budget allotted.

[Golfman25]

5 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

You could argue some are more concerned with the optics of how IU is perceived by the national media and other fan bases then they are actual results on the court.   Some would rather lose a close game to a national brand team like Duke then actual win a game close game where IU looks bad against a team like Northwestern.  Been that way for a while for some people.   The reality is doesn’t matter how IU is perceived next year coach DeVries is going to have to win.   He could have gotten the top 12 transfer portal guys this year or he could have gotten 200-212 ranked transfer guys in the portal and his expectation is going to be the same.   Win.  Optics would look better for some with choice 1 however expectations would be no different the door number 2.   Unimpressed or impressed with what he has done doesn’t matter just got to sit back and see if this is the year IU claws its way back to where people want it to be 

I simply want to start by regularly beating Northwestern.  And Nebraska for that matter.  :)