Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[rcbowla 8,234]

2 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Maybe he will meet someone at Kilroys that will make him want to commit to IU.

#whateverworks

Some Jesus Shuttlesworth action. Let's get it done B-town.

[SlamaJamaSisley 3,557]

3 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Maybe he will meet someone at Kilroys that will make him want to commit to IU.

#whateverworks

Or maybe he spending that money he just agreed to?

[iubb 4,779]

I’m not against DD.  I’m looking forward to the fall and the product we see on the court.  It wasn’t directed at you, but what I disagree with, is that because we have been mediocre the last several years it’s going to take time to work back up.  Not with the right guy at the top it won’t.  Is DD the right guy?  I hope so maybe but we don’t know yet.

Agreed. I am arguing the point that by just throwing money at the best players our issues will be solved.

 

 

I strongly disagree with that stance. As if a players only reason for coming here is $$ it is not going to end well.

 

 

I mean we literally saw this with our football team last year. Julian Lewis was a top target. And after he strung the team along it became apparent all he cared about was the $$$. And that is when Coach C decided to move on.

 

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[BA47591 966]

Not to add to the negativity, but this was not what I was hoping for when Woody agreed to step down in February. I'm old, this needed to be a sense of urgency hire. 

 

 

[Hoosierfan2017 24,813]

5 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

Not to add to the negativity, but this was not what I was hoping for when Woody agreed to step down in February. I'm old, this needed to be a sense of urgency hire. 

 

 

I don’t think this is what anyone was hoping for/expecting, even the optimists. 

[HoosierFan1994 5,323]

Probably the #2 reason I'd love for IU to land Wilkerson is to shut up the Kentucky fan base. All I see is "if we add Wilkerson we are a final four team" as they lay out their projected starting 5...4 of which none of those fans had zero clue about and most likely have never seen play before. Every fan base does it, but it's hilarious when "X" player is the missing piece. Next November outside of Oweh they will have pretty much an entirely new team...just like us. 

Don't get me wrong, DeVries needs to land dudes. It's nowhere near panic time. Let's see where we are at in a week or so. That being said, regardless of who he adds all of the talk will be speculation until November. I'm just tired of winning the offseason. I'd love to get Wilkerson, mainly because this program hasn't valued shooters in almost a decade. That being said, if he goes somewhere else IU will have a team next fall. Not one player is bigger than this program. 

Yes, I would buy stock in Kentucky and Louisville's programs right now. Love what Kelsey and Pope have done in year one. But the fanning from the national media these last few weeks cracks me up. Kelsey has zero NCAA tournament wins. Last time I checked Kentucky doesn't hang banners for making the Sweet 16. Let them do the silly GIF's on Twitter when they get a commitment. Good for them if they're "winning the off-season". We did that last year (with proven P5 players) and look how that worked. Let DeVries do his job and back the man..If he loses to a mid major by 30 points in his debut or refuses to put in the work necessary to win, we can criticize him. Right now, he deserves the support from the fan base. 

[Rico 3,536]

23 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

Not to add to the negativity, but this was not what I was hoping for when Woody agreed to step down in February. I'm old, this needed to be a sense of urgency hire. 

 

 

Little did I realize, at the time, that when Damon Bailey played his last game as a Hoosier that IU basketball would never be the same.  

[JustWinBaby 1,959]

Thinking back on this time last year and Dusty May or Bruce Pearl could've been the head coach... *sigh*

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 757]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You can repeat the “middle of the pack B1G team” line as much as you want, but the sole reason IU has been a middle of the pack team is because of coaching. There’s absolutely nothing from an IU standpoint holding DeVries back. He has better resources than nearly every other team in the conference. Johnson seems like a good hire but Adams is meh. 

But he’s not competing with other teams in the conference from a recruiting perspective so resources mean nothing vs. other big ten teams. On top of that the top big ten teams have had coaches in position for a long time now. DeVries has to still get 11 more players and hasn’t hired a full staff yet. Just because the portal closes doesn’t mean the team has to be built. When you move into a new job and the last three people have g gotten it right would you expect to be judged 1 month in? Kentucky has 2 spots left. Louisville might not have any but once those teams finish their rosters it will be much easier for him to build his team. Everyone has to also understand he targeted Murphy and Texas Tech guy and didn’t get them so it’s hard to build that roster without those assistants and their connections when filling so many spots. He just started working with KJ this weekend so he has to decide which of KJ’s connections he wants to pursue for the team he is trying to build. He doesn’t want to have to do this every year so he also has to find kids that can be multiple year players so he’s only adding 4-6 each year. For people who are upset about Adams hire I get it but if he truly has Indiana connections then DeVries specifically said IU has to get back to recruiting Indiana hard so Adams makes Perfect sense. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 757]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

No, I would like him to land the coaches and players that he targets and for said players/coaches to be top tier.

But how do you know they won’t be? Also, wouldn’t you rather him shoot high for guys like Murphy even if they aren’t attainable or go instantly for next tier down to more realistic targets? It takes two to tango. How do you know DeVries isn’t doing/saying everything right yet for whatever reason they just decide they don’t want to come to IU. Growing up you always hope to get the attractive cheerleader and ask her to prom but if she’s not interested in you then dang you didn’t hit who you were targeting so then you had to find someone else and quick but you’re going against the qb for the services and he offers the exact same thing you do but is currently more successful and you’re just now getting to be known. If IU has a great season with whoever he gets then going forward that will make IU more attractive to players/assistants going forward. This year he has to do what he can/get who is actually willing to come here but that takes time and you people have zero patience. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 757]

1 hour ago, iubb said:

I also dont want players who will only come here because of money.

That will never end well and guaranteed to result in a toxic locker room


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Hence Mike Woodson last year. People absolutely loved the recruits he brought in through the portal yet they weren’t a team at all. DeVries won’t settle for that. He is building a team which takes time and I’m willing to trust his eyes/judgment over anyone on this board including myself lol

[AH1971 3,100]

4 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

My biggest concern with the DeVries hire has been wondering if he has the recruiting chops to get kids that are coveted by bluebloods and other high-majors. Still early, but the early returns haven't looked good. 

Here’s the deal with DeVries…you give him 3-4 years to establish a culture and build a rosters there’s a good chance you never look back. Reality is that IU fans have little patience (especially in today’s climate) and immediate results are not only expected but demanded. DeVries has two years tops to show something or he’ll be the next casualty.  It is what it is. Hope he kills it this year…I’m rooting hard am all-in

[Hoosierfanyuh 6,091]

A lot of moaning and groaning for someone who hasn’t made a decision yet. Rumors he’s out and about on kirkwood tonight lol 

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4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Here’s the deal with DeVries…you give him 3-4 years to establish a culture and build a rosters there’s a good chance you never look back.

Honest question: Why do you think he needs that much time? Drake was really good in his first year, and I heard him talk in a podcast about having ten new players that year, and that was pre-portal. West Virginia was really good in his first year too. 

I was skeptical of him as the choice, so I’m wondering why you as someone who’s all in thinks he’ll need more time. Not trying to be snarky here—a genuine question. 

[AH1971 3,100]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Ok

 

 

He can’t get the assistants he wants or the players he wants despite the financials in a world where financials talk.

 

We aren’t giving him the assets for it to take time. He’s tasked with building a winning team this year. He’ll need to figure it out a win some coveted players.

 

 

 

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IU is just another program these days. Said it for a year and you guys tried to laugh me off this board. Same was said about Louisville this past offseason. Win this year and the rest will play out…that is unless you try to run coach out after a year. IU fans their own worst enemy.

[AH1971 3,100]

1 minute ago, Ctf9 said:

Honest question: Why do you think he needs that much time? Drake was really good in his first year, and I heard him talk in a podcast about having ten new players that year, and that was pre-portal. West Virginia was really good in his first year too. 

I was skeptical of him as the choice, so I’m wondering why you as someone who’s all in thinks he’ll need more time. Not trying to be snarky here—a genuine question. 

You give him 3-4 years of support, he’ll be really good. IU fans see $10 mil roster and expect a national Title. Doesn’t work that way. Lose the fan base….you’re toast.

[AH1971 3,100]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

You can wave the almighty dollar and sell a vision. That IS his job or his assistants, which he couldn’t convince either. He came to Indiana to have the resources to compete at a higher level.

He clearly missed on his assistant targets. Now he’s clearly missing on his lead targets in the portal.

There are plenty of red flags early.


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The only thing IU has right now is money…but so do 15-20 other schools. When you haven’t been relevant in 30 years but still demand blue blood results, you’re expectations are never going to jive with reality.

[AH1971 3,100]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Alternatively, a new coach with top of the conference resources is struggling to land assistants and players. 

IU is a mid-tier program in a 2nd rate conference. Like it or not, that’s the perception of IU basketball these days.

If only you were born in the 60’s or 70’s…

[AH1971 3,100]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

People were excited about Cupps the same way they are excited about Enright. I tried to have Cupps discussions too but was flamed down. I’ve stated my peace in Enright. I think Bailey and DeVries are defensive liabilities but cool and exciting offensive pieces. I don’t like many of our rumored targets even. It’s just been rough. People aren’t going portaling much now. When does it close?

 

 

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Enright has shown 1000x what Cupps has shown on a collegiate basketball court. 
 

stop it

[AH1971 3,100]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You can repeat the “middle of the pack B1G team” line as much as you want, but the sole reason IU has been a middle of the pack team is because of coaching. There’s absolutely nothing from an IU standpoint holding DeVries back. He has better resources than nearly every other team in the conference. Johnson seems like a good hire but Adams is meh. 

Your’re rambling and being incoherent.