Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Home Jersey 15,413]

1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

Probably true...but most of the country can't find Canada on a map, make change from a cash register or understand the difference between "literally" and "figuratively" among many other short-comings.  

Doesn't change IU's portal success, but people are pretty dumb. 

I’d genuinely like to meet anyone you know that can’t find Canada on a map lol 

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,959]

Just now, AH1971 said:

I don't owe you s*** lol. If you think firing a coach every 4-5 years is somehow going to erase 30+ years of mediocrity I don't know what else to tell you.

Dodge the question. Present a bull$hit strawman argument. You are part of the clown orgy.

The alternative to your bull$hit argument is to have 2 mediocre to terrible coaches every 15 years. I would rather roll the dice and try to get a coach that doesn’t suck. It is called a meritocracy, I would much rather have that culture than one of accepting mediocrity.

 

[go iu bb 9,102]

48 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Pretty wild (and telling) that the same group of people who continuously complain that IU has a coach hiring problem are the same group of people that can never figure out why "good" coaches don't ever want to come to IU.

I would say IU hasn't done much since Knight to actually get a good coach.

• Davis - no searching hire, just retained the interim
• Sampson - actually ended up with a good coach but no real coaching search
• Crean - on sanctions and facing a total rebuild after Sampson
• Miller - not much of a coaching search, settled for a mid-major who Glass seemed to have already targeted
• Woodson - again, no coaching search. Forced on IU by Buckner

For this hire, there was actually a coaching search but things had changed quite a bit since Knight was let go. Even other big name schools recently had problems hiring big name coaches. Back in the aughts, a big name coach could've been had if they actually tried. Pitino, for one, openly wanted the job.

Only Sampson from the list above has had any success after IU and he was probably the worst hire regardless of his coaching acumen. They've made bad hires and not because of the fans.

[HinnyHoosier 6,539]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

I’d genuinely like to meet anyone you know that can’t find Canada on a map lol 

I heard a story today about a 20 something local girl/woman with 2 children of her OWN that admitted she didn't know babies were grown in the uterus and didn't know humans had intestines until just recently.

I guarantee the anti-Magellans are out there.

[Deserthoozier 1,124]

15 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Wrong! The fans didn’t run any coaches off this team, the AD did.

Please tell me which one of our previous coaches shouldn’t have been fired when they were?

Mike Woodson. 100% objective empirical data showed he should’ve been shown the door after greatly underperforming in year 3 and NEVER considered for a year 4… in particular when you had Pearl and May in the wings for the job!!  It was 100% management malfeasance to bring him back.
 

(mods maybe open that thread back up…I think many aren’t done venting about the 5h1t show we were forced to endure for another wasted year). 

[Atombaum 36]

I feel like this is a coaching thread now. Wrong?

[TheWatShot 15,448]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

I’d genuinely like to meet anyone you know that can’t find Canada on a map lol 

I can't speak for Canada, but every single social media weather-related post I see anymore showing a map is filled with comments saying "Where is this? Where is (my location) on here?" usually even when a well-known city is on the map. 

 

I don't think map-reading is taught anymore. 

[realTomCrean 2,730]

I have been AWOL for about 10 days with personal happenings. Anyone care to give me a rundown of what’s happened, who we’re targeting or linked to? 
 

also anybody have anything on Nijel Pack?

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,959]

Just now, Deserthoozier said:

Mike Woodson. 100% objective empirical data showed he should’ve been shown the door after greatly underperforming in year 3 and NEVER considered for a year 4… in particular when you had Pearl and May in the wings for the job!!  It was 100% management malfeasance to bring him back.
 

(mods maybe open that thread back up…I think many aren’t done venting about the 5h1t show we were forced to endure for another wasted year). 

Touché. You are right. He should have been fired in year 3.

[Mopladysman 1,359]

So do any portal players have interest in Iu? 

[Scotty R 3,485]

34 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Not for me.  And you're missing the bigger point.  Woody had very high approval into Year 3.  Sorry that ruins your narrative.

I disagree with that

[tyappleg 7,630]

Just now, realTomCrean said:

I have been AWOL for about 10 days with personal happenings. Anyone care to give me a rundown of what’s happened, who we’re targeting or linked to? 
 

also anybody have anything on Nijel Pack?

Missed on Dix and Conwell.  Elyjah Freeman is probably our next target. 

No interest reported in Pack at this point, but who knows.  

[Scotty R 3,485]

This board is so easy to rile up, it is pretty entertaining 

[HinnyHoosier 6,539]

2 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

I have been AWOL for about 10 days with personal happenings. Anyone care to give me a rundown of what’s happened, who we’re targeting or linked to? 
 

also anybody have anything on Nijel Pack?

We have no team and half a coaching staff and everyone hates each other. Find your nearest panic button.

[DougWil 74]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Are you impressed by what you’ve seen from DD since he was hired? If so, what has impressed you? 

What will impress me is if DeVries achieves what he talked about in his opening press conference:

We want to build something that is sustainable for a long period of time, and we will do that by staying true to what this program is about. We will know when we have made it when every time a fan, a booster, an alumni, or a former player comes to watch us play and turns on the TV, and after that game is over, that they are filled with pride because they have so much respect for how our team plays, how unselfish they are, the joy they play with, and the enthusiasm they play with and their love for this university.

What DeVries needs to do now is set the foundation for the culture and personality of his IU teams. The coaches he hires and the players he recruits will be important first steps in this process. I'm paying attention to the players IU is contacting, but there isn't any way for me, as an outsider, to know how well DeVries is doing in his first 17 days.

Josh Dix picking IU would have given me a good impression because he can shoot, but he just finished with a season in which Iowa matched IU's 10-10 Big Ten record (19-15 overall vs. IU at 19-14)  and also got their coach fired. Would he be a difference-maker in what DeVries is trying to establish? I don't know. Would he have come at a cost preferable to what other talented players in the portal will ultimately cost IU? I don't know. Am I upset that he's not coming to IU? No. Am I upset that Ryan Conwell isn't coming to IU? No. 

I think DeVries and his staff aim to build a program by knowing the kind of players and people they're looking for and fitting them into a system that has continuity in the way the team plays every season and every game.  How can we judge progress toward that today? I'd rather sacrifice a bit on talent, at least initially, if they can attract players who really want to be here and will compete, like DeVries said, with joy, enthusiasm, and love for IU. With a better-than-average budget and a clear direction on our program, I'm hopeful the team on the floor next season will have good talent, pieces that fit together, and play with a plan and a purpose like we haven't seen at IU in a long time. You can tell a lot by how a team plays and competes. Like many, I haven't liked how IU plays for a long time, even in many of their wins. I want to see a team that is exceptionally difficult to beat at Assembly Hall and never gets blown out there. 

I'd also like to see things move faster, too, but I have no idea about whether that would lead to more success next season and in the years ahead. How could we possibly know? In a month, we should know more about the talent level of next year's team, but we still won't know about all of the players' intangibles and the impact of coaching that will make the team more than a collection of players. That's the important stuff to me. 

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12 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I don't owe you s*** lol. If you think firing a coach every 4-5 years is somehow going to erase 30+ years of mediocrity I don't know what else to tell you.

Lolololol 

There is a thesis to be written on ptsd of a fanbase from what we've been through. 54 years of built to be champions to champions to "the king has lost his mind" to mass self-destruction,  followed by the music from the Benny Hill show. For atleast 15 years Lololol

But still we hold on. Like fn cats on a curtain. Lololol 

[AH1971 2,954]

10 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Dodge the question. Present a bull$hit strawman argument. You are part of the clown orgy.

The alternative to your bull$hit argument is to have 2 mediocre to terrible coaches every 15 years. I would rather roll the dice and try to get a coach that doesn’t suck. It is called a meritocracy, I would much rather have that culture than one of accepting mediocrity.

 

And yet you still don't understand why IU can't hire a "good" coach...

Perhaps that's the question you should be asking.

[realTomCrean 2,730]

3 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

We have no team and half a coaching staff and everyone hates each other. Find your nearest panic button.

https://x.com/cbbonfox/status/1778218519492284636?s=46&t=KBMjZuJJTG50JspPvw-4aA
 

This is what I’ve been thinking on repeat for a week about Coach Devries 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,753]

Posting this here because I'm on this thread.  Bring back Cliff Marshall!!! :)

[realTomCrean 2,730]

“Now, I’ve talked with the team. There is no team.”