They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

It’s hard to imagine knight or smith or rupp would’ve been too much less successful at osu or ku, respectively. But I suppose it’s possible. But in any event, guys like Roy Williams, Eddie Sutton, and even our own branch McCracken have done it successfully in div 1. Countless others at other levels. 
 

Woodsons problem isn’t where he played basketball, but how he coaches basketball.
 

 

And it’s his drive, he has none!

[jeffincol]

I was asked to provide more details about the planes and what I know, so I figured I would post it here.  I somehow have found about 5 different planes that IU has used, is using, may use, ect.  Now I have conflicting details on which plane belongs to who, but have sorted out the mainly it is Ned Pfau and Fuzzy that either own or lease a plane, that IU has been using.  Appears they are tight with a guy that owns or operates the Clark Regional airport, so they have access to alot of different planes from there.  There have been various flights back and forth between Boca Raton (Ned's Place in FL) to either Clark Regional (Ned's place here) and then to Bloomington.  We had tracked 1 of these planes going down to pick up Cignetti shortly after he was hired.  So, where it got interesting is shortly after Christmas 1-3 of these planes had activity to Boston plus other surrounding areas.  I was going to try and copy all of this flight data into excel to see if I can make sense of any of it.  I am sure there are connections between some of these, but I am not sure it is worth my time.  I think everyone knows that Dolson is in contact with Stevens, I think the process of negotiating or offering is taking place.  Only thing I can prove is yes, we have had planes, involved with IU, making several trips to Florida, Boston, and Jeffersonville.  I think a lot of this is expected behavior with ultra wealthy people, but I don't think they are going to Boston to play golf in the winter.  

PS.  NBA Trade Deadline is Feb 6th

Edited January 31, 2025 by jeffincol

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, BBTB said:

yes you are right ,I didn't even see him play  but seems he just doesn't know how to coach 

He was one heck of a player! Played hard but sure as heck doesn’t coach hard.  I think he’s developed too many lazy bad habits from the NBA

[IUFAN1976]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Tonight was the last night. But I came home after work, cleaned the house, did all the laundry, gathered up all the trash and may or may not be sitting down with a cold beverage since it’s Purdue Eve.

You can’t quit now!  “You can do it!”  

[Chris007]

8 minutes ago, jeffincol said:

I was asked to provide more details about the planes and what I know, so I figured I would post it here.  I somehow have found about 5 different planes that IU has used, is using, may use, ect.  Now I have conflicting details on which plane belongs to who, but have sorted out the mainly it is Ned Pfau and Fuzzy that either own or lease that IU has been using.  Appears they are tight with a guy that owns or operates the Clark Regional airport, so they have access to alot of different planes.  There have been various flights back and forth between Boca Raton (Ned's Place in FL) to either Clark Regional (Ned's place here) and then to Bloomington.  We had tracked 1 of these planes going down to pick up Cignetti shortly after he was hired.  So, where it got interesting is shortly after Christmas 1-3 of these planes had activity to Boston plus other surrounding areas.  I was going to try and copy all of this flight data into excel to see if I can make sense of any of it.  I am sure there are connections between some of these, but I am not sure it is worth my time.  I think everyone knows that Dolson is in contact with Stevens, I think the process of negotiating or offering is taking place.  Only thing I can prove is yes, we have had planes, involved with IU, making several trips to Florida, Boston, and Jeffersonville.  I think a lot of this is expected behavior with ultra wealthy people, but I don't think they are going to Boston to play golf in the winter.  

PS.  NBA Trade Deadline is Feb 6th

Man that is some good work. Thank you for all of the information. Someone said the Executive airport in Indy might be a place they would speak to BS dad Mark or a family member from Indianapolis.

[JF87]

10 minutes ago, jeffincol said:

I was asked to provide more details about the planes and what I know, so I figured I would post it here.  I somehow have found about 5 different planes that IU has used, is using, may use, ect.  Now I have conflicting details on which plane belongs to who, but have sorted out the mainly it is Ned Pfau and Fuzzy that either own or lease that IU has been using.  Appears they are tight with a guy that owns or operates the Clark Regional airport, so they have access to alot of different planes.  There have been various flights back and forth between Boca Raton (Ned's Place in FL) to either Clark Regional (Ned's place here) and then to Bloomington.  We had tracked 1 of these planes going down to pick up Cignetti shortly after he was hired.  So, where it got interesting is shortly after Christmas 1-3 of these planes had activity to Boston plus other surrounding areas.  I was going to try and copy all of this flight data into excel to see if I can make sense of any of it.  I am sure there are connections between some of these, but I am not sure it is worth my time.  I think everyone knows that Dolson is in contact with Stevens, I think the process of negotiating or offering is taking place.  Only thing I can prove is yes, we have had planes, involved with IU, making several trips to Florida, Boston, and Jeffersonville.  I think a lot of this is expected behavior with ultra wealthy people, but I don't think they are going to Boston to play golf in the winter.  

PS.  NBA Trade Deadline is Feb 6th

[jeffincol]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Man that is some good work. Thank you for all of the information. Someone said the Executive airport in Indy might be a place they would speak to BS dad Mark or a family member from Indianapolis.

Yes there has been some involvement with Indy Executive on a few of those.  Was wondering why there but forgot about the Zionsville component.  

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

Smith was offered by Purdue a month after we hired Woodson and committed just 3 days later. I think it's fair to wonder if Woodson even knew Smith existed. 

Problem was Woodson went to Noblesville to see Brian Smith.  :)  

[jeffincol]

1 minute ago, JF87 said:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

[MonteMarcaccini]

21 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Welcome aboard. I’ll let you know where to drop off the membership 6 pack. 
 

I remember officiating some of his AAU games and you could tell he could play.

Thank you and please do.

I’ll share another story relevant to some of your expertise.

My son, again, was waiting tables and had an older couple in Celtics gear, it was this summer a couple days after the Celtics won the title. He says to them you must be happy and the couple said yes, especially since their son is the GM (which is funny as he is actually the President).  My son tells them he is a big IU fan and that we are always hoping Brad would coach IU.

His Dad says, “us too!  But he would never do that to Butler”

It is a Dad talking, who knows, and things obviously can always change, but I always found it interesting that he said that.

One can dream…

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Worth noting that Matt Painter spent ten years as an assistant, a year as a head coach, and another where he served as a head-coach-in-waiting under Keady.  Sheyer spent nine years as an assistant at Duke before getting the head job.

The difference is that by the time they got there head jobs, they were no longer just ex-players.

Sure, it is possible for someone to become a good head college coach immediately....just not very likely.

Woodson thinks he's a coaching savant... more like an idiot savant... 

and maybe that's only half right. :D

[Golfman25]

27 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I thought it was a 12 pack, and my house please!  Anyhow, you are still doing dry January 

Inflation, gentlemen.  It's a 30 pack.  

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, HinnyHoosier said:

He would have transferred out anyway after being called Branden relentlessly by Woodson.

I can hear Woodson now: "C'mon, let's go, Branden!" :)

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, MonteMarcaccini said:

Thank you and please do.

I’ll share another story relevant to some of your expertise.

My son, again, was waiting tables and had an older couple in Celtics gear, it was this summer a couple days after the Celtics won the title. He says to them you must be happy and the couple said yes, especially since their son is the GM (which is funny as he is actually the President).  My son tells them he is a big IU fan and that we are always hoping Brad would coach IU.

His Dad says, “us too!  But he would never do that to Butler”

It is a Dad talking, who knows, and things obviously can always change, but I always found it interesting that he said that.

One can dream…

Well hopefully 10-12 million a year can change his mind. I believe his dad played football at IU. It’s crazy how many stories there are of Brad, a family member or close friend talking about him at IU.

[IUFAN1976]

4 minutes ago, MonteMarcaccini said:

Thank you and please do.

I’ll share another story relevant to some of your expertise.

My son, again, was waiting tables and had an older couple in Celtics gear, it was this summer a couple days after the Celtics won the title. He says to them you must be happy and the couple said yes, especially since their son is the GM (which is funny as he is actually the President).  My son tells them he is a big IU fan and that we are always hoping Brad would coach IU.

His Dad says, “us too!  But he would never do that to Butler”

It is a Dad talking, who knows, and things obviously can always change, but I always found it interesting that he said that.

One can dream…

That’s a pretty cool story, thanks for sharing!

[Golfman25]

24 minutes ago, jeffincol said:

I was asked to provide more details about the planes and what I know, so I figured I would post it here.  I somehow have found about 5 different planes that IU has used, is using, may use, ect.  Now I have conflicting details on which plane belongs to who, but have sorted out the mainly it is Ned Pfau and Fuzzy that either own or lease a plane, that IU has been using.  Appears they are tight with a guy that owns or operates the Clark Regional airport, so they have access to alot of different planes from there.  There have been various flights back and forth between Boca Raton (Ned's Place in FL) to either Clark Regional (Ned's place here) and then to Bloomington.  We had tracked 1 of these planes going down to pick up Cignetti shortly after he was hired.  So, where it got interesting is shortly after Christmas 1-3 of these planes had activity to Boston plus other surrounding areas.  I was going to try and copy all of this flight data into excel to see if I can make sense of any of it.  I am sure there are connections between some of these, but I am not sure it is worth my time.  I think everyone knows that Dolson is in contact with Stevens, I think the process of negotiating or offering is taking place.  Only thing I can prove is yes, we have had planes, involved with IU, making several trips to Florida, Boston, and Jeffersonville.  I think a lot of this is expected behavior with ultra wealthy people, but I don't think they are going to Boston to play golf in the winter.  

PS.  NBA Trade Deadline is Feb 6th

I told you all this in my post above -- Brad Stevens is the interim.  :)   

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

He committed to PU after Woodson was hired. Woodson had time to look at him and offer. He didn't. 

I did mention Miller in my post, so I'm aware that he missed on him too. Miller is no longer IU's coach, so that is moot.

Woodson didn't sign Smith because Smith never bothered to call him...

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Only 11.5? That’s a win in itself.

Yay! Another moral victory

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I've been away from Bloomington for too long.  Is there a geographic spot that after Woody's gone could be renamed 'The Hump'?

The Hump is the "Fella's Lounge"... and y'all are mishearing and misquoting the Wizard of Broad Ripple... what he keeps saying in the pressers is "gotta get over TO the hump".

[Artie86]

…..man, can only hope to see Coach Brad Steven’s coaching in the Cream and Crimson soon.