They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[coonhounds]

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

My daughter is a relatively new fan. Like maybe last 3 years. Anyhow just giving the perspective that she cares and is sad when we lose. I try to tell her we suck and are probably not going to win but she still gets her hopes up. Anyhow point is the younger kids have passion and want us to win. I am not sure how long you can keep them though if you don't improve the program imo

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[Pagoda]

12 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Good post. Unfortunately there’s people more influential and frankly powerful than Dolson regarding IUBB…it’s part of the reason why Woodson is arrogant/cocky….yes, he’s part of that group. He will not willingly “retire.” Time will tell, but this isn’t going to be easy. It may have to take some serious balls from Dolson. Let’s hope. 

I’m not insider, but I agree, this is how I see it playing out as well.  It will probably be nasty behind the scenes.  Scott has to win the political battle — he’s probably got Pam on his side and if he can get our key donors too he’s good to go.  Mike just doesn’t have a case to stay with these results after so much money spent, even the Cook crew will have to concede this point.

[Home Jersey]

Fire everybody. They suck big time.

[Papacap]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

I’ve been against firing him mid season, but the argument for it is basically this. Try and salvage something for guys like Leal and Goode who are on their last go around and are busting their @$$.  
 

At this point, unless Hunter is a miracle worker we’re probably hoping to have a competitive squad that has a punchers chance in the BTT. It’s something at least. 

The other argument is, we squeak into the tourney, win a game, and then the Woodson cadre say, see? We are back. I don’t buy the argument from rational people that that wouldn’t be good enough. 

[WeeDerkaNaut]

44 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

I feel like our situation is more along the lines of the new Nike slogan that dropped during the Olympics. "Winning isn't for everyone." The people at/around IU who have the money and control don't know how to win and they refuse to get out of the way. Their egos won't allow it. 

[coonhounds]

Fire everybody. They suck big time.

That's where I am. I am not praising dolson or anyone else until this is fixed. I get that they are going to wait to fire him until all hope is lost. The real crime was committed last year when they retained his sorry @$$

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[Artie86]

2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I’m not insider, but I agree, this is how I see it playing out as well.  It will probably be nasty behind the scenes.  Scott has to win the political battle — he’s probably got Pam on his side and if he can get our key donors too he’s good to go.  Mike just doesn’t have a case to stay with these results after so much money spent, even the Cook crew will have to concede this point.

  

Things will definitely be getting uglier, the more we under-perform and lose.

I just hope Dolson's hands aren't tied right now with some "red tape" within Woodson's contract about firing "in season".....

 

[Shooter]

49 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

I think you have it backwards. The people with power at IU have been around since the Knight days, and they are the ones who put us in this situation.

The students (younger fans) are the ones who chanted to fire him

[Hoosier DaDa]

11 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I don’t think it was. I heard he was disciplined for it. It has also been known around campus that he’s out on nights after games and weekends. He’s not liked by other males on campus.

Are the males pissed off that he’s stealing all the girls?

[SlammySammy]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Are the males pissed off that he’s stealing all the girls?

Maybe he's giving off a "toxic masculinity" vibe...lol

[Hoosier DaDa]

11 hours ago, AKHoosier said:

I don't remember Galloway saying anything objectionable during senior day last year, only Leal.

Galloway I thought just thanked the fans, gave a shutout to the coaches, and announced he was returning to IU.

Leal was the one who pissed me off.

Yeah you know the guy who plays 2 minutes a game. I was like who gives a F if you comeback. I’m sorry I’m going to die on the “HUMP” if Leal our best option at guard we aren’t winning a lot games. Leal has MAC talent not B1G.

[Home Jersey]

[RoadRage]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

"Mike Woodson can't execute the plays for them fellas!"

      -mike woodson

[JF87]

14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

[HinnyHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

 

[Stuhoo]

17 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

It’s a problem when 18-20 year olds are treated like NBA vets that practice these plays full time. When we made the subs there was notable confusion by Mgbako and Rice. On the other hand, Gallo, Goode, and Malik knew how the play was supposed to be executed.

That’s a coaching issue—clear concise communication and understanding your players’ limitations. 

[Silat Player]

16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Mike Woodson doesn't seem to understand that the job of the coach is to get the players to execute. Maybe he should tell Mike Woodson that some time...

[WeeDerkaNaut]

14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

So according to Woodson we're intentionally trying to shoot a three when we're only down by one. Math doesn't check out. Get Ballo the ball inside. Simple. Either win by one outright or Ballo goes to the line. He misses both we lose. He makes one we go to OT. He makes both we win. Instead we go for the unnecessary hero play, brick the contested fustercluck shot and lose. Make it make sense...

[Hoosier DaDa]

16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

So now Woody thinks we are blind? Yeah you’re right Woody our eyes deceived us everything was executed smoothly. It was almost like watching a well oil machine. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back you jackass.

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

So now Woody thinks we are blind? Yeah you’re right Woody our eyes deceived us everything was executed smoothly. It was almost like watching a well oil machine. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back you jackass.

It just keeps getting worse with him.