They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby]

You’d have to be insane to want any of these clowns back.  Maybe Hulls.

Yes you would and no former players please. They tried the iu guy thing.

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[cbp4iu]

11 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Hunter has already been here as part of 2 failed coaching staffs. It's time for him to move on, imo.

I honestly hope the next coach cleans house.

Yes that’s why I asked I want a full deep clean. Even get rid of Clif. 

[Hornsby]

So when does Cathy's process start and who gets a seat at the table. You certainly want players from the 60's and 70's having a major say in this!!!!!

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[steubenhoosier]

For you no ex -IU guy advocates.

If, for some reason Dolsen gets caught up in the purge, I would take Chris Reynolds as AD in a heartbeat 

[Papacap]

We can joke about Cathy but her prediction is still on the table and may end being correct if he’s with us through the end of the season. 

[MrBBall]

4 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

For you no ex -IU guy advocates.

If, for some reason Dolsen gets caught up in the purge, I would take Chris Reynolds as AD in a heartbeat 

Purge? The AD leads that. Dolson goes nowhere and for a long time won’t go anywhere 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Pagoda said:

Yea, though interestingly Ole Miss has pretty darn good NIL.

Not IU level NIL….and IU’s potential NIL if they were to win consistently dwarf’s Ole Miss’s.

[Hornsby]

We can joke about Cathy but her prediction is still on the table and may end being correct if he’s with us through the end of the season. 

I'm not totally joking. That's the sad part.

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[Pagoda]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not IU level NIL….and IU’s potential NIL if they were to win consistently dwarf’s Ole Miss’s.

Yea, agree, just an observation that surprised me about Ole Miss bball.

[Papacap]

Just now, Hornsby said:

I'm not totally joking. That's the sad part.

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Yep. And I’m not specifically meaning you. She has taken a lot of grief here, much deserved. But her basic premise that IU doesn’t work in the way we would like to fire him now may end up the most likely scenario. 

[Silat Player]

4 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Purge? The AD leads that. Dolson goes nowhere and for a long time won’t go anywhere 

Agreed. Dolson is going nowhere. He seemed to fix football, which will could conceivably be the most valuable asset of the athletic department. 

I do, however, disagree with some who seem to completely let him off the hook for the Woodson hiring. On paper it was one of the worst major college basketball coaching selection of the last few decades - up there with Penny Hardaway too, maybe. All of the claims that Dolson was somehow forced into by boosters or QB dont entirely get him off the hook.

 

[AZ Hoosier]

58 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Since the first game of the conference season at home against Minnesota, we have given up at least 75 points in every conference game. Nine in a row.

That’s next level horrible.

Not true.

[Silat Player]

4 minutes ago, Papacap said:

Yep. And I’m not specifically meaning you. She has taken a lot of grief here, much deserved. But her basic premise that IU doesn’t work in the way we would like to fire him now may end up the most likely scenario. 

Yep. We were kind of laughing at her, but let's remember how inconceivably incompetent this admin has been over the last 20+ years. LOL

Kathy IS them. Thats how they think. Yikes!

[Hornsby]

Agreed. Dolson is going nowhere. He seemed to fix football, which will could conceivably be the most valuable asset of the athletic department. 
I do, however, disagree with some who seem to completely let him off the hook for the Woodson hiring. On paper it was one of the worst major college basketball coaching selection of the last few decades - up there with Penny Hardaway too, maybe. All of the claims that Dolson was somehow forced into by boosters or QB dont entirely get him off the hook.
 

It's worse than penny imo.

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[Stuhoo]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Not true.

True dat—we gave up only 74 to Rutger and 69 to USC! Quick scan reading by me is sucky reading.

[Banksyrules]

14 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

For you no ex -IU guy advocates.

If, for some reason Dolsen gets caught up in the purge, I would take Chris Reynolds as AD in a heartbeat 

If this happens then I’m done with IU sports because not only will our administration be corrupt but will also reach the mountain top of stupidity. We finally get an excellent football program ( which brings 10x more money than basketball) and we fire the guy the football coach likes…….. done. Deactivate this account if this happens this year. 

[Hornsby]

Agreed. Dolson is going nowhere. He seemed to fix football, which will could conceivably be the most valuable asset of the athletic department. 
I do, however, disagree with some who seem to completely let him off the hook for the Woodson hiring. On paper it was one of the worst major college basketball coaching selection of the last few decades - up there with Penny Hardaway too, maybe. All of the claims that Dolson was somehow forced into by boosters or QB dont entirely get him off the hook.
 

I still don't get the "forced" What exactly did quinn do threaten to fire him. Hadn't he just started.

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[ziggyiu]

Logically I understand there's no discernable difference between letting Woodson go during the season or after. One could argue that since we won't go quietly that losing in February and March is necessary for him and his supporters to understand how he isn't right for the job. Though conversely keeping him risks exposing the public to our most outspoken contingency who will serenade us with in game chants and social media rants. These scenes won't help the outside perception of our program which could negatively influence the coaching search. 

Emotionally it's difficult to know he's still the coach. Our administration and big donors have mismanaged IU basketball for so long that releasing Woodson now gives me faith that they too are aware of the issues and want to correct the problem. Each passing day with him as coach gives me more concern that there aren't enough decision makers who understand the damage he has caused--not just with wins and loses but by denigrating fans and separating us into true fans who are loyal to him and fake fans that are committed to a better basketball program even if it means admitting he isn't the answer. 

#BTBTherapy 

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I still don't get the "forced" What exactly did quinn do threaten to fire him. Hadn't he just started.

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He was a year into the job and the most or second most powerful person at IU and his pals wanted Woodson.  What was Scott supposed to do?  Quinn could just flat out not approve whatever Scott wanted and Fergie could cut off NIL… they held all the cards.

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

Logically I understand there's no discernable difference between letting Woodson go during the season or after. One could argue that since we won't go quietly that losing in February and March is necessary for him and his supporters to understand how he isn't right for the job. Though conversely keeping him risks exposing the public to our most outspoken contingency who will serenade us with in game chants and social media rants. These scenes won't help the outside perception of our program which could negatively influence the coaching search. 

Emotionally it's difficult to know he's still the coach. Our administration and big donors have mismanaged IU basketball for so long that releasing Woodson now gives me faith that they too are aware of the issues and want to correct the problem. Each passing day with him as coach gives me more concern that there aren't enough decision makers who understand the damage he has caused--not just with wins and loses but by denigrating fans and separating us into true fans who are loyal to him and fake fans that are committed to a better basketball program even if it means admitting he isn't the answer. 

#BTBTherapy 

It’s going to get a lot worse if they let him keep coaching.  I assure you.  His senior day speech will be filled with racial rhetoric when he knows he’s about to be fired.  And don’t be surprised to see some awful 6 letter words from some of our crazy fans along the way too.  The administration has created a powder keg.  They own this.