They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976]

9 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

What? What?!! You trust a man who doesn’t like percolated coffee??!! 

Oh well, we all have our issues!  I don’t even like coffee!

[IUFAN1976]

34 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

His bracket is the Delphi one he does with the high school kids.    I’ve talked with him before on bracketology in the past through PM on twitter.  He does follow college basketball closely and is knowledgeable with the bracketology part of things.   He is a good follow for bracketology as well.  He is right Bottoms is really locked in.  My guess his is stuff got lost in translation or he just doesn’t see 10 wins so he doesn’t even want to do hypotheticals and they only have 2 wins right now so no need to project until they get closer to 10. 

He’s the guy that was on Podcast on the Brink on Inside the hall.  He said we would need 12 wins to get on the right side of bubble but would be barely.  I think 10 wins gets us at the bubble.  Personally, 10-10 in the conference won’t get us in

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

9 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I’m not going to argue what it will take as you are pretty dialed in there.

What I will say is that it will be VERY difficult for IU to move on from Woodson if he makes the tourney. I was told that I was wrong/what I was told was wrong by others but I will only believe it when I see it. Firing a coach that made the tourney is rare. 
 

I think we make it in with 20-13 and we retain him

Nope, nada, nyet, non, nein.  Won't be difficult at all because he'll retire bragging how he returned us to prominence.

[Tasmanian Devil]

22 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He’s the guy that was on Podcast on the Brink on Inside the hall.  He said we would need 12 wins to get on the right side of bubble but would be barely.  I think 10 wins gets us at the bubble.  Personally, 10-10 in the conference won’t get us in

Quite honestly, WHERE are any wins coming from here on out?

if you look at ESPNs game capsules of our schedule, they have us favored over USC, Penn St at home and Washington. And the only prediction that is solid for us is the Trojans. There are a few games we’re not favored in that the predictions are not overwhelmingly against us, but outside of 4 games remaining our opponents are listed with essentially a 60% chance of winning.

Who do we beat? We can talk 10-10, 9-11 . . . all you want, but those numbers aren’t worth anything without a win. Who do we REALISTICALLY beat to get there?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

9 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

So they signed him a 6 year contract with no intent on him being here more than 4?

Length of contracts have more to do with recruiting and giving the prospects assurance (rightly or wrongly) that their coach will be there for their career.

[AZ Hoosier]

11 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Nope, nada, nyet, non, nein.  Won't be difficult at all because he'll retire bragging how he returned us to prominence.

Thrilled that he will be gone... but clearly he's nothing more than a legend in his own mind.

[Uspshoosier]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I think 10 wins gets us at the bubble.  

They are already on the bubble.   Probably 8-10 out as of today and don’t have any Q1 wins.  By default if they got to 10 wins they are going to have multiple Q1 wins.  I would feel very confident as a bracketologist that if they get to 10 wins they will be are the right side.    Hypotheticals are nice however not enough information is available making absolutes on if a team gets to a certain number of wins they are in or out.   Would have to wait and see what the end of the bubble looks like. 

[Golfman25]

30 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Quite honestly, WHERE are any wins coming from here on out?

if you look at ESPNs game capsules of our schedule, they have us favored over USC, Penn St at home and Washington. And the only prediction that is solid for us is the Trojans. There are a few games we’re not favored in that the predictions are not overwhelmingly against us, but outside of 4 games remaining our opponents are listed with essentially a 60% chance of winning.

Who do we beat? We can talk 10-10, 9-11 . . . all you want, but those numbers aren’t worth anything without a win. Who do we REALISTICALLY beat to get there?

In my mind the next two weeks is it for the season.  If we can steal away wins against Penn state and iowa, and beat USC, that leaves a battle with IL at home.  If we take that one, we are in the driver’s seat and have momentum.  If we lose to Penn state and iowa, we see IL at 3-3.  It only gets more difficult from there.  Woody’s got one big a$$ hump in front of him.  

[Golfman25]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They are already on the bubble.   Probably 8-10 out as of today and don’t have any Q1 wins.  By default if they got to 10 wins they are going to have multiple Q1 wins.  I would feel very confident as a bracketologist that if they get to 10 wins they will be are the right side.    Hypotheticals are nice however not enough information is available making absolutes on if a team gets to a certain number of wins they are in or out.   Would have to wait and see what the end of the bubble looks like. 

The fact that we are talking about bubbles in Jan tells us everything we need to know.  Fire Mike Woodson. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

The fact that we are talking about bubbles in Jan tells us everything we need to know.  Fire Mike Woodson. 

Absolutely.  Especially with the team that was projected preseason #2 in the conference. 

[IUFAN1976]

42 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Quite honestly, WHERE are any wins coming from here on out?

if you look at ESPNs game capsules of our schedule, they have us favored over USC, Penn St at home and Washington. And the only prediction that is solid for us is the Trojans. There are a few games we’re not favored in that the predictions are not overwhelmingly against us, but outside of 4 games remaining our opponents are listed with essentially a 60% chance of winning.

Who do we beat? We can talk 10-10, 9-11 . . . all you want, but those numbers aren’t worth anything without a win. Who do we REALISTICALLY beat to get there?

You misread my post.  That is what that Bracketologists stated that was on the Podcast on the Brink.  But he actually said that we might win 8 games.  I think we might win anywhere from 7-10 games at best but more closer to the 7.

[IUFAN1976]

25 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They are already on the bubble.   Probably 8-10 out as of today and don’t have any Q1 wins.  By default if they got to 10 wins they are going to have multiple Q1 wins.  I would feel very confident as a bracketologist that if they get to 10 wins they will be are the right side.    Hypotheticals are nice however not enough information is available making absolutes on if a team gets to a certain number of wins they are in or out.   Would have to wait and see what the end of the bubble looks like. 

That is true but without any Q1 wins, they aren’t getting in.

[Scotty R]

7 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

If you listen to the Tonsoni podcast he very much tries to punt on the topic BECAUSE he says Andy Bottoms on the podcast with him knows this stuff and he doesn’t.

I like Tonsoni’s game and scheme analysis and he knows IU well, but the guy consistently shows that he doesn’t follow college basketball much beyond Monroe County. He never, never has knowledge about the national scene.

He submits a bracket as part of a named group? That’s fine but he would agree that he’s not an expert. That’s not a knock on him; he’s good at what he’s good at but this isn’t it.

Yes he does know the national scene. Him and Delphi bracketology get press passes for most of the big ten schools. He has to watch more than just IU to be good at bracketology 

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That is true but without any Q1 wins, they aren’t getting in.

Yes that would be the case. That’s why I said hypothetically if IU got to 10 wins they would have multiple since 13 of their 17 remaining games are Q1 opportunities with the Purdue game at Assembly Hall right on the edge that could be 14 Q1 games left.   That’s all I’m saying.    If and thats a big if the got to 10 they would have to have won multiple Q1 games.   As a bracketologist I give the unbiased path IU has and give you the why they can make it going 10-10 however the invested IU fan in me  can tell you I don’t see the path.    I’m just better at looking at IU through the lense of an unbiased college basketball fan then others when doing bracketology 

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Oh well, we all have our issues!  I don’t even like coffee!

Sacrilege 

[Stuhoo]

I don’t see the eight or nine additional wins currently, but I do see the roster ability to get the eight or nine additional wins.

I’m also well aware that in Woody’s first two seasons many didn’t see a path after some adversity, yet IU got in, the second of those years as a four seed. Even last year they went a major win streak after all signs pointed to a train wreck. I think they won four of their last five conference games.

So it’s interesting as heck and tomorrow’s game is a barometer.

[Stuhoo]

11 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

What? What?!! You trust a man who doesn’t like percolated coffee??!! 

Stop trolling me.. ima gonna whine to the mods or sumthin 

2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Oh well, we all have our issues!  I don’t even like coffee!

Aye caramba

2 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Sacrilege 

#kumbaya

[Home Jersey]

58 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Yes he does know the national scene. Him and Delphi bracketology get press passes for most of the big ten schools. He has to watch more than just IU to be good at bracketology 

Having a press pass means diddly squat in terms of knowing what you’re talking about especially when it comes to bracketology 

[Scotty R]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Having a press pass means diddly squat in terms of knowing what you’re talking about in terms of bracketology especially 

He has been a high school coach in Indiana for 20 years and knows the game. Delphi bracketology has been ranked one of the best in the bracket matrix. He does know what he did a talking about 

[Trish]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

He has been a high school coach in Indiana for 20 years and knows the game. Delphi bracketology has been ranked one of the best in the bracket matrix. He does know what he did a talking about 

He does indeed, the 2016 champion in fact. 

 

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