They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[monskisprodigy]

My only fear in going with someone like McCollum...this fan base is fractured, tired and seething for immediate success. 

If you hire a big name, the fan base may be more likely to point to prior success and give them some grace. I fear the negativity would fire up quickly for a largely unproven lower level coach if they don't have immediate success. As a fan base, we have been told "a coach needs time" for the last 8 years...not sure that will fly again with whoever we hire given the current NIL environment and resources available, where you can flip rosters and teams year 1. 

As much as I'd love us to find an up and coming diamond that can lead our program to glory, I worry about going that route vs. a proven winner at this level.  

[Hoosierfanyuh]

8 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

We need a proven winner to turn this around right now even if it's only for 5 years. Can't take a risk on a 40 year old up and comer.

Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk
 

I was alluding to Brad and Dusty if that wasn’t obvious haha 

[sirhoosierlot]

8 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

My only fear in going with someone like McCollum...this fan base is fractured, tired and seething for immediate success. 

If you hire a big name, the fan base may be more likely to point to prior success and give them some grace. I fear the negativity would fire up quickly for a largely unproven lower level coach if they don't have immediate success. As a fan base, we have been told "a coach needs time" for the last 8 years...not sure that will fly again with whoever we hire given the current NIL environment and resources available, where you can flip rosters and teams year 1. 

As much as I'd love us to find an up and coming diamond that can lead our program to glory, I worry about going that route vs. a proven winner at this level.  

he's won four national championships 

[AZ Hoosier]

My only fear in going with someone like McCollum...this fan base is fractured, tired and seething for immediate success. 

If you hire a big name, the fan base may be more likely to point to prior success and give them some grace. I fear the negativity would fire up quickly for a largely unproven lower level coach if they don't have immediate success. As a fan base, we have been told "a coach needs time" for the last 8 years...not sure that will fly again with whoever we hire given the current NIL environment and resources available, where you can flip rosters and teams year 1. 

As much as I'd love us to find an up and coming diamond that can lead our program to glory, I worry about going that route vs. a proven winner at this level.  

I'm a huge fan of the Cignetti method... find someone who's won consistently at the lower levels, give them the resources they need to win and watch it grow. 

A guy like Pearl might truly be a bridge pick, but we're seeing how that could play out... I agree with [mention=8844]Home Jersey[/mention] that Brad Stevens is a long shot, but agree with "why not"...

But my gut tells me to go with someone like Dusty or McCollum... I'm getting old, and not sure that I have time left to wait out a 4-5 year rebuild... I know that I don't have the stomach for it.

[Stuhoo]

17 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

We need a proven winner to turn this around right now even if it's only for 5 years. Can't take a risk on a 40 year old up and comer.

Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk
 

I think you'll be extremely disappointed if you're expecting either Beard or Pearl to ever be the head coach at IU.

[Home Jersey]

Watch Drake play and tell me McCollum is a risk or “up and comer” in any sense but age alone. Lol. 10-0 with basically a D2 team against a pretty good schedule so far in year 1. 4 D2 titles. The guy is going to win like Cignetti no matter where he goes.

[monskisprodigy]

21 minutes ago, sirhoosierlot said:

he's won four national championships 

D2 National Championships, yes. But he hasn't won consistently at the D1 level...yet. He is in his first year at Drake. 

I am not saying he isn't a great coach and wouldn't have success, I was merely pointing out I think there would be a much shorter leash with the fan base for someone like him vs. a proven D1 winner.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, monskisprodigy said:

D2 National Championships, yes. But he hasn't won consistently at the D1 level...yet. He is in his first year at Drake. 

I am not saying he isn't a great coach and wouldn't have success, I was merely pointing out I think there would be a much shorter leash with the fan base for someone like him vs. a proven D1 winner.

Dolson will not be looking for someone that appeases or gets a long leash from the fan base. He will be looking for someone that can consistently win at a high level.

[reconmkd]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

And how pissed is Woodson that Coach Cig is making almost double his base salary plus incentives? It's gotta sting just a little bit... and Cig got his boys over the hump right away.

Cig never had a hump! He preemptively laid explosives in said hump, blew it to pieces, and had a paving crew lay the nicest stretch of asphalt IU football has ever seen!

[Muskie plays the four]

McCollum or McMillan and go. 

[monskisprodigy]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Dolson will not be looking for someone that appeases or gets a long leash from the fan base. He will be looking for someone that can consistently win at a high level.

That's why he gets paid the big bucks...and for all of our sakes, I hope he makes the right choice haha. 

[Hoosierinbham]

1 minute ago, Muskie plays the four said:

McCollum or McMillan and go. 

And we have a winner!

[Pagoda]

3 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Cig never had a hump! He preemptively laid explosives in said hump, blew it to pieces, and had a paving crew lay the nicest stretch of asphalt IU football has ever seen!

Yea, he really highlighted Woody’s deficiencies and gave the fans an alternative to Woody’s garbage.  Attendance has been poor, the number of true fans is dwindling.  

[Hoosier DaDa]

I'm over now reading HSN comments since someone listed the link.

Paging ScottyR paging ScottyR, David over at HSN needs some info!!!

 

[monskisprodigy]

18 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Watch Drake play and tell me McCollum is a risk or “up and comer” in any sense but age alone. Lol. 10-0 with basically a D2 team against a pretty good schedule so far in year 1. 4 D2 titles. The guy is going to win like Cignetti no matter where he goes.

If we don't go the big name proven D1 Route, he definitely intrigues me the most out of any of the other options. 

[reconmkd]

10 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Yea, he really highlighted Woody’s deficiencies and gave the fans an alternative to Woody’s garbage.  Attendance has been poor, the number of true fans is dwindling.  

Maybe Coach Cig can assist Dolson in the search process, lol!

[Home Jersey]

13 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Yea, he really highlighted Woody’s deficiencies and gave the fans an alternative to Woody’s garbage.  Attendance has been poor, the number of true fans is dwindling.  

[deserthoosier]

6 hours ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I got you. Here is the summary:

Thanks for the laugh, but I did find it. It was on another site:

Had to jot a summary down just to keep track of all the **** listed. Might’ve missed some, but here’s a summary of it for those not able to listen to the whole two hours who just want the stories shared:

Called Bigfoot by Indy high school select coaching circuit because he was always talked about but no one was ever sure if he existed

Would try placing tee times on university’s dime at golf courses while on recruiting visits

Told Parker Stewart who had recently lost his dad who was his former college coach that the problem with him was that he’d never been coached—player then left the program

Wrongly prepped for Michigan State instead of Michigan for first big ten tournament, called assistant coach (Ya) a ***** when correcting him, led to a physical altercation

Asked for a meeting with head of Indiana Elite (Mark Adams) to discuss top recruits in the Indiana Elite program, but didn’t even know the name of his top player who Adams had helped immigrate into the US from the Congo, Flory Bidunga (later commits to Kansas)

Never once called the coach of top high school 5 star recruit in Indy (Braylon Mullins) this past year who grew up an IU fan. Dan Hurley and UConn staff called him weekly, kid commits to UConn

Blew off a portal recruiting dinner to drink and play cards with buddies at a cigar lounge

Controls NIL allocations, likely paid Leal and Galloway mid six figures to endorse him as senior leaders

[mamasa]

7 minutes ago, deserthoosier said:

Thanks for the laugh, but I did find it. It was on another site:

Had to jot a summary down just to keep track of all the **** listed. Might’ve missed some, but here’s a summary of it for those not able to listen to the whole two hours who just want the stories shared:

Called Bigfoot by Indy high school select coaching circuit because he was always talked about but no one was ever sure if he existed

Would try placing tee times on university’s dime at golf courses while on recruiting visits

Told Parker Stewart who had recently lost his dad who was his former college coach that the problem with him was that he’d never been coached—player then left the program

Wrongly prepped for Michigan State instead of Michigan for first big ten tournament, called assistant coach (Ya) a ***** when correcting him, led to a physical altercation

Asked for a meeting with head of Indiana Elite (Mark Adams) to discuss top recruits in the Indiana Elite program, but didn’t even know the name of his top player who Adams had helped immigrate into the US from the Congo, Flory Bidunga (later commits to Kansas)

Never once called the coach of top high school 5 star recruit in Indy (Braylon Mullins) this past year who grew up an IU fan. Dan Hurley and UConn staff called him weekly, kid commits to UConn

Blew off a portal recruiting dinner to drink and play cards with buddies at a cigar lounge

Controls NIL allocations, likely paid Leal and Galloway mid six figures to endorse him as senior leaders

I really wasn't sure which emoji to use- it'd be funny if it wasn't so damned sad

[Kentuckysucks]

I’d be thrilled with the Drake coach assuming Brad and Dusty are a no.  He could be our Bo Ryan but with much better recruiting given our resources.