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1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

So, if we forget MM first half of last season, Rice's second half of last season, and Carlyle on ball shooting % and this staffs history of bad 3 pt shooting...

A true freshman struggling to adjust to the speed of the college game didn't shoot lights out right out of the gate? Nope, never heard of that happening before lol. The horror!!!!

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First, you guys are hilarious. Reading the pages I missed on a long travel day is great.  I guess I missed the chance to drop the bomb that coaches were informed yesterday that Woody is being ret

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The “compromise” by Dolson to let this go down this way saved us some good cash on the buyout. Lot of litigation today. Make no mistake about it, this was not Woody’s decision to retire. 

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4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

This has been discussed 100 times over. Rice was shooting 36% until an 0-22 slump the last 6 games of the season plummeted his average...call it a "freshman wall". Carlyle shot over 40% from 3 playing off the ball, a role he will primarily play here at Indiana. But glad you know how to read a box score. 

Lol ok so we're going to pick and choose stats to make someone a better player than they actually are.

Whatever. I hope you're right and they shoot lights out.

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10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

This has been discussed 100 times over. Rice was shooting 36% until an 0-22 slump the last 6 games of the season plummeted his average...call it a "freshman wall". Carlyle shot over 40% from 3 playing off the ball, a role he will primarily play here at Indiana. But glad you know how to read a box score.

15 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

38% on volume for a true freshman in a 20 game conference slate isn't good? You're an idiot!

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Just now, AKHoosier said:

Lol ok so we're going to pick and choose stats to make someone a better player than they actually are.

Whatever. I hope you're right and they shoot lights out.

I'm telling you that not a single team in America is going to sag off Myles Rice this season because of a box score. And if they do, they'll pay dearly. 

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2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I consider a 30 game sample size a much more appropriate measure than a 5 game sample set that included a massive slump to end the year for a first year player coming off radiation therapy. But you do you. Keeping receipts and taking names. March will be fun, too bad you won't be watching...but I'll be sure to be here to give you the recap. 

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

“He’s a good shooter if you take out his 0-22 stretch during the most important part of the season” is a helluva take.

Taking the coaching out of it, I would say that he is probably a streaky shooter and that if put into the right type of system that there is something to work with there.  He isn't a drop dead shooter but he is someone that other teams should have to guard.  If they sag off of him to stop the drive, he has shown ability to make teams pay for that.  If he can shoot around 35% (with volume) that should be good enough.

Now I know that completely overlooks the elephant in the room....I just don't want to buy into the narrative that this isn't a good roster.  It is.  There is no excuse for the staff not to excel with the roster they built.  There is talent.  They can't complain about the new faces because this is how they want to build their roster.

We should expect a Top 20 team all year at worst.

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2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Lol ok so we're going to pick and choose stats to make someone a better player than they actually are.

Whatever. I hope you're right and they shoot lights out.

It’s ironic that he accuses others of pushing narratives when he’s all over the place with which games’ stats should count and which shouldn’t. For Mgbako, apparently only his 20 regular season games count. For Rice, his 0-22 stretch doesn’t count. Also the stats from his full conference season don’t count because he shot 24.6% from 3 during those games. 

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1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

A true freshman struggling to adjust to the speed of the college game didn't shoot lights out right out of the gate? Nope, never heard of that happening before lol. The horror!!!!

So which is it struggling out of the gate or freshman wall? or do you choose whichever fits your nara...

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3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Taking the coaching out of it, I would say that he is probably a streaky shooter and that if put into the right type of system that there is something to work with there.  He isn't a drop dead shooter but he is someone that other teams should have to guard.  If they sag off of him to stop the drive, he has shown ability to make teams pay for that.  If he can shoot around 35% (with volume) that should be good enough.

Now I know that completely overlooks the elephant in the room....I just don't want to buy into the narrative that this isn't a good roster.  It is.  There is no excuse for the staff not to excel with the roster they built.  There is talent.  They can't complain about the new faces because this is how they want to build their roster.

We should expect a Top 20 team all year at worst.

It’s a good roster on paper. We’ll find out soon whether it’s a good roster on the court. Unfortunately, we’ll never know how good it truly could be because of the staff on the bench. 

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“He’s a good shooter if you take out his 0-22 stretch during the most important part of the season” is a helluva take.
This is the easiest preseason schedule we have seen in a very long time. If Woodson cannot win 25 games this year it will never happen.

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2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s ironic that he accuses others of pushing narratives when he’s all over the place with which games’ stats should count and which shouldn’t. For Mgbako, apparently only his 20 regular season games count. For Rice, his 0-22 stretch doesn’t count. Also the stats from his full conference season don’t count because he shot 24.6% from 3 during those games. 

If you take out all of Rice's missed 3 pt attempts, he shot 100% last season. I mean if we're cherry picking which shots count, why not?

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Gary Parrish on his 5 coaches on the hot seat.  Our beloved coach made the list.

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Even though I am on the record saying this thread is over the top in criticism of CMW—let the season play out and then decide—-at least for some time it focused on the coach. 
 

Now, for some reason, this has become a place to dissect and tear down the roster.Criticizing the players, some before they’ve played one minute in the cream and crimson.

If this thread has a function, how about keeping to the topic? Maybe let the guys perform before passing judgement. 

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57 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Even though I am on the record saying this thread is over the top in criticism of CMW—let the season play out and then decide—-at least for some time it focused on the coach. 
 

Now, for some reason, this has become a place to dissect and tear down the roster.Criticizing the players, some before they’ve played one minute in the cream and crimson.

If this thread has a function, how about keeping to the topic? Maybe let the guys perform before passing judgement. 

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1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Gary Parrish on his 5 coaches on the hot seat.  Our beloved coach made the list.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat-five-coaches-who-may-need-a-good-season-in-2024-25-to-save-their-job/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGI7cdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYxHAFC_HI-HpvofsZeICMYkRs2QUqk3NST1b7qyfMqnfZjQlGY9PMwV4A_aem_dNxf2m5lESQhNM3V-w3bNw

And his perplexed mug is the cover photo for the article... 

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1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Gary Parrish on his 5 coaches on the hot seat.  Our beloved coach made the list.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat-five-coaches-who-may-need-a-good-season-in-2024-25-to-save-their-job/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGI7cdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYxHAFC_HI-HpvofsZeICMYkRs2QUqk3NST1b7qyfMqnfZjQlGY9PMwV4A_aem_dNxf2m5lESQhNM3V-w3bNw

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