They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[coonhounds]

Hire beard. This board is a small amount of fans who will make a big deal out of his mistakes. The vast majority will be happy to be winning again. First fire woodson!

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[coonhounds]

Lol at thinking the charges were dropped because there was some evidence that exonerated him. Go research domestic violence statistics and look at how many cases go unprosecuted and for what reason. 

So if we hire beard you won't be a fan anymore?

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[AZ Hoosier]

38 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Chris007..are you sensing a retirement announcement tomorrow to make sure Sunday isn't a massively embarrassing clusterf*ck inside AH?

The UM game is Saturday. Sunday SSAH will be quiet.

[IUFAN1976]

2 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said:

You’re right on the trust thing and who can blame us?  The average poster on the Peegs board has been a lot better on every single hiring and firing we have made since the Knight era than the people running the Indiana administration.

Fans with good basketball knowledge know what hire would work and not. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Yea, if we hire him it's a shitstorm of media mentioning the DV allegations and the university and fans being divided over it.  Just doesn't work for IU.

The media PR would be tough at the beginning. But it would go away once we started winning. 

[AZ Hoosier]

39 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Yes.  But we didn't recruit a veteran back-up point guard, so we just told Xavier not to do it again.  

The Wizard of Broad Ripple's version of "tough love".

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

So if we hire beard you won't be a fan anymore?

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Would be extremely tough to support him.

[jeffincol]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Justifying domestic violence. Just wow.

No one is justifying DV, but there is more to the story than just the police report.  There are alot of things missing from that report.  Long and short of it, is no one really knows what happened that night.  Charges were dropped, because the evidence to support wasn't there, and then she recanted.  Later apoogized at the presser to Ole Miss. and stated that everything Beard did, was in self defense.  So do we believe her statement to police over that statement later..............that is the issue.

[IUFAN1976]

3 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Hire beard. This board is a small amount of fans who will make a big deal out of his mistakes. The vast majority will be happy to be winning again. First fire woodson!

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Exactly and I am all onboard if IU hired Beard!

[AZ Hoosier]

38 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Beard went to a title game....that's not small-time.  

By that token, Brad Stevens is small-time because Butler isn't a major program.....except he made it one.

So did Mike Davis...

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, jeffincol said:

No one is justifying DV, but there is more to the story than just the police report.  There are alot of things missing from that report.  Long and short of it, is no one really knows what happened that night.  Charges were dropped, because the evidence to support wasn't there, and then she recanted.  Later apoogized at the presser to Ole Miss. and stated that everything Beard did, was in self defense.  So do we believe her statement to police over that statement later..............that is the issue.

I believe that the University of Texas investigated and fired him with cause. At the time he was having a lot of success, too.

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[IUFAN1976]

Just now, jeffincol said:

No one is justifying DV, but there is more to the story than just the police report.  There are alot of things missing from that report.  Long and short of it, is no one really knows what happened that night.  Charges were dropped, because the evidence to support wasn't there, and then she recanted.  Later apoogized at the presser to Ole Miss. and stated that everything Beard did, was in self defense.  So do we believe her statement to police over that statement later..............that is the issue.

Exactly, there is always 2 sides to every story. I am of the mind set, innocent until proven guilty but there are some that are guilty until proven innocent 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, GloryDays said:

I get it and believe me I'm with you on that part .Im also against stuffing security guards in waste cans.

Just venting but Damm I want to win.

Stevens May then Beard with a clause in his contract.

What good does a "clause in his contract" do? Assuming he's hired (and I am not conceding that point), and he does something that violates "the clause", he's gone and we're starting over again... why not just get it right this time without the risk of hiring an alcoholic woman beater on double secret probation?

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, jeffincol said:

No one is justifying DV, but there is more to the story than just the police report.  There are alot of things missing from that report.  Long and short of it, is no one really knows what happened that night.  Charges were dropped, because the evidence to support wasn't there, and then she recanted.  Later apoogized at the presser to Ole Miss. and stated that everything Beard did, was in self defense.  So do we believe her statement to police over that statement later..............that is the issue.

No there isn't. There is absolutely nothing that justifies what Beard did to his girlfriend regardless of who started it. Outside of your life being in an immediate danger (and no, being in a drunken argument with your significant other doesn't qualify as immediate danger), there is absolutely zero justification EVER to lay hands on another women.  

[Hornsby]

Exactly, there is always 2 sides to every story. I am of the mind set, innocent until proven guilty but there are some that are guilty until proven innocent 

So am I. Especially after Duke lacrosse. I can't even imagine the meltdown on here by some if we hire beard. Because he is guilty guilty guilty to them. No trial needed . In fact they would likely vote guilty before opening statements

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[CSP]

2 minutes ago, jeffincol said:

No one is justifying DV, but there is more to the story than just the police report.  There are alot of things missing from that report.  Long and short of it, is no one really knows what happened that night.  Charges were dropped, because the evidence to support wasn't there, and then she recanted.  Later apoogized at the presser to Ole Miss. and stated that everything Beard did, was in self defense.  So do we believe her statement to police over that statement later..............that is the issue.

Wow. What a reasonable post. 

[PartyintheVillas]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Exactly, there is always 2 sides to every story. I am of the mind set, innocent until proven guilty but there are some that are guilty until proven innocent 

This isn't a court of law, though. I agree innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This is also a PR and values issue for a University that is over 50% female. The message sent is that winning basketball games is more important than women being safe.

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[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Exactly, there is always 2 sides to every story. I am of the mind set, innocent until proven guilty but there are some that are guilty until proven innocent 

There isn't two sides to the story here. There was absolutely a physical altercation between Beard and his girlfriend. This wasn't a "he hit me...no I didn't" type deal. He absolutely battered her and then she later claimed it was in "self-defense". Forgive me for not wanting someone who has laid hands on a woman coaching IU basketball. 

[AZ Hoosier]

41 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I did say that. I think he has a chance, he's down the list but saying no chance is dumb on my part. He would have to be vetted and OK'd by Whitten but there is a way to get there. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but I'm not saying there is no chance. 

Didn't Whitten squash the football hire with a questionable past?

[Pagoda]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The media PR would be tough at the beginning. But it would go away once we started winning. 

Most of it.  But the reputation damage is done with all sorts of articles and interviews about IU and their new coach who also has DV issues.  It's not fair, but it becomes "IU is okay with DV."

Then there is the ongoing risk of an embarrassing relapse.  If that happened, Scott and Pam are fired.

It's just hard for a big time program/university to associate itself with someone who has DV allegations.  Maybe it's not fair, but it's just how it is for any big brand program.

I'm not making this hire.  If I was, and Beard was begging for the job, I'd talk with him and have him walk me through what happened, play the recording, get PI/police opinions, etc.  Maybe there is an exonerating angle in there.  My gut is there isn't and he screwed up, but I would check.