They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[WeeDerkaNaut]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Woody says it’s gonna be a while. Yet my source says it’s nothing major. I don’t know how to balance those 2. Seems we might be missing him next week as well.

As far as the 2 big thing, I think it’ll work itself out. I said earlier it’s less about 2 bigs and more about 3 bigs. I think you can play 2 of them. Hustle needs to keep up. Rebounding was better but some teams are still gonna feast on us from 3.


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I kind of agree but MR and Ballo on the court together seems to cause hitches in our play in a few ways on both offense and defense. Woodson clearly runs a big centric play style but having both on the floor together disrupts the rest of the team. It's the Ballo Reneau show and it feels like the rest of the team just kind of fades to let them carry when we need all five being active on the court, as they were today. We say Reneau is not great defensively but that's a lot of the team most of the time especially on the perimeter. Hard to say how much of that is poor defensive coaching and how much of it is the rest of the team mirroring their bigs, which they kind of do in a few ways. Today they were matching Ballo and there was a big difference. It goes back to the big centric style, which means the team is going to play around them. Ballo was wound up and the rest of the team elevated to match it defensively. Rotating Ballo and Reneau would also keep us from being super swingy as far as giving up a lead too, as Reneau is a scorer. His defense leaves a lot to be desired yes but he would at least be putting up points to reduce how much our leads get cut by. MM is going to do what he does and jack threes from the wing or corner. I agree that all three don't need to be on the floor at the same time but the team feeds off of Ballo and Reneau so they do need to be rotated in my opinion. Ballo should start, Reneau should come in off the bench. 

[WeeDerkaNaut]

34 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

The former obviously:) suffering is all we know

 

Lord please help us lol

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

$15M buyout, moving on Allen deserves some credit.

Wasn't his money.  But tells you how bad it bacame under Allen.  :)

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Quinn doesn't care about football. Dolson was allowed to make his own decision on cig. Dolson is not running the bbal program imo. If he was I'm pretty sure Woodson would not have been back. But now all tge momentum is with the keep Woodson camp. Win 12 big ten games and one in the tourney and he is safe as can be.

 

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A freaking tourney win, he probably gets a statue.  :)  

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, OKHOOSIER said:

But it’s also okay to be critical of a 6 point win given the metrics of how it happened. As you stated earlier, a good team turns that shooting performance into a 20+ point win. 
 

Thats the main crux of the last like ten pages of back and forth in the Fire Mike Woodson thread. I made my comments pro-win in the game thread and came here to vent my displeasure with how it happened. People hanging out in a thread designated for complaining about CMW, being trolled for hanging out in a thread designated for complaining about CMW. It happens every time we have an unexpected win, it’s all good it’s just silly. 

He's called mediocre Mike for a reason.  These wins, plus the non-confernce wins, where mediocre at best.  There really wasn't any where we showed up and "announced our presence with authority."  

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Jeebus Christmas, you can be happy your team won and acknowledge the details of each game, good and bad. 

This fanbase needs therapy. Everyone probably agrees on that.  

Exactly.  The Bears beat the Packers today and sucked doing it.  :)   

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Scotty R said:

And everyone knows the first losing streak by the new coach some of the fan base will turn on him as well

If you're not first, you're last.  :) 

[Oggyiu]

21 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

He's called mediocre Mike for a reason.  These wins, plus the non-confernce wins, where mediocre at best.  There really wasn't any where we showed up and "announced our presence with authority."  

The pre game board was 7-33 in favor of PSU. Understand where you’re coming from, but can’t be both ways.

Either they aren’t that good, or we beat a good team 

[Hornsby]

He's called mediocre Mike for a reason.  These wins, plus the non-confernce wins, where mediocre at best.  There really wasn't any where we showed up and "announced our presence with authority."  

I call him the six million dollar man.

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[Napleshoosier]

Calm down everybody!  The guy is gonna be gone soon.  Chill out.  It needs to be a thank you Woody.  Ur F’n great!  IU is movin on to our future which has been enhanced by Coach Mike F’n Woodson and the next coach will take us to banner #6!  That’s the $hit that will go down.  Come on.  We all know it.  Accept it…. And he will be gone!!!  Go Hoosiers!!

[SlammySammy]

11 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I don’t actively root for the demise of a sitting head coach and actually want the Hoosiers to win.

I’m the furthest thing from a troll. I’m also not miserable either.

Why are you posting in this thread then? Just curious....other than trolling....

[Stuhoo]

10 hours ago, Oggyiu said:

The pre game board was 7-33 in favor of PSU. Understand where you’re coming from, but can’t be both ways.

Either they aren’t that good, or we beat a good team 

The answer is much implied, but let me state it directly:

1. We were ahead for the entire final 19:42 of the game.
2. We beat them on the road.
3. We beat a good team.

[Pagoda]

10 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Wasn't his money.  But tells you how bad it bacame under Allen.  :)

That's what made it even harder, he had to raise the money.  Even worse, he had to explain that he was the person who increased his buyout three years earlier haha.

[Chris007]

10 hours ago, Oggyiu said:

The pre game board was 7-33 in favor of PSU. Understand where you’re coming from, but can’t be both ways.

Either they aren’t that good, or we beat a good team 

An average team played better than average to beat another average team. We were 7.5 underdogs which is very sad that were ever an underdog in basketball to PSU

[Chris007]

48 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The answer is much implied, but let me state it directly:

1. We were ahead for the entire final 19:42 of the game.
2. We beat them on the road.
3. We beat a good team.

You might be too mellow if you think that was a good team. I haven't seen them much but nothing about them yesterday showed me anything other than average.

[Uspshoosier]

32 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You might be too mellow if you think that was a good team. I haven't seen them much but nothing about them yesterday showed me anything other than average.

You might be a little too bitter about a terrible coach that is currently coaching IU if you can’t view a conference road win against a team that was currently projected as a tourney team something IU isn’t as anything but a positive.   Yep Woody sucks however road wins in conference over teams currently ahead of you on the seed line are always a good thing.  The win probably moved IU up to the first 4 out range.   Does it suck that’s where IU is at as a program?  Yep but that’s where it’s at 

[Juwan Moye]

They’re a bubble team. That’s a good win for IU given the current state of things.
 

Not a good win for where we wish the program were but until there’s a coaching change this is how it is.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

You might be a little too bitter about a terrible coach that is currently coaching IU if you can’t view a conference road win against a team that was currently projected as a tourney team something IU isn’t as anything but a positive.   Yep Woody sucks however road wins in conference over teams currently ahead of you on the seed line are always a good thing.  The win probably moved IU up to the first 4 out range.   Does it suck that’s where IU is at as a program?  Yep but that’s where it’s at 

Always take a road win. But if PSU is a bubble team and I know you know the numbers better than anyone on this board then the bubble is not very good this year. Maybe this is a year where the committee takes a few more mid-majors than average P5 teams. And yes I'm a little bitter but I'm watching the rest of the season just enjoying it since it sounds like the end is near.

[Hoosier987]

46 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

An average team played better than average to beat another average team. We were 7.5 underdogs which is very sad that were ever an underdog in basketball to PSU

I think we're so used to getting spanked on the road to average teams that yesterday was a refresher. Lets see if we can win at Iowa - another very average team. 

[IUCrazy2]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

You might be a little too bitter about a terrible coach that is currently coaching IU if you can’t view a conference road win against a team that was currently projected as a tourney team something IU isn’t as anything but a positive.   Yep Woody sucks however road wins in conference over teams currently ahead of you on the seed line are always a good thing.  The win probably moved IU up to the first 4 out range.   Does it suck that’s where IU is at as a program?  Yep but that’s where it’s at 

I don't think that negates his point though.  He didn't say whether the win was a positive or a negative, he just said it was two average teams playing each other and one of the average teams played better and won.  That is pretty much what happened.

Sunshine and unicorns view, "Yay, we beat a higher NET rated team on the road!"

Pessimist: "With the talent we have we should win that game and it shouldn't have been the struggle it was after we opened a 16 point lead, but here won."

Ultra-pessimist view: "We sadly have to rely on injuries to force the coach to play how we should have been playing all along and if not for an injury to a post player, we are likely looking at getting shredded with the pick and rolls and basket drives than we were and we likely would not have had the offensive spacing that helped our offense.  Woody got forced into being a better coach by fate.  It is JHS at the point because XJ went down type of 'brilliance' that potentially saves a season but has zero to do with any adjustments Woodson made."