AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 1 hour ago, deserthoosier said: I understood that the raise was given so IU could spread a buyout to 1 million per year. Not a bad move in the grand scheme... not that he deserved a raise, but at least now Dolson can make him wait for the golden parachute to fully deploy. deserthoosier 1
AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 50 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: It’s going to be an administration battle royal if he makes the tournament and we try to fire him. Quinn will still be around. He probably gets an extension. Is Dolson really going to have the balls to go against some of the power brokers? He’d be risking his career, to fire mediocre mike. I don’t see it. He’ll focus on football instead. Dolson has some capital of his own at this point... deserthoosier and Pagoda 2
AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 27 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Correct dolson isn't risking his job to fire Woodson. Quinn likely wins that battle. The only thing that might change it is if the big donors put away their wallets for bbal. Unlikely. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Not sure if I'm a member of the Cook, Simons or Ferguson families that I'm happy with my investment in this POS "coach". At some point they have to realize they're repainting a sinking ship.
AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 7 minutes ago, Scotty R said: I look it the other way that the success in football is going to put more presser on Woodson and the basketball program. IU is and will always be more of a basketball school and the fans will expect the same turn around in basketball as we seen in football And Cignetti has shown the world what is possible... turned a historically crappy program around in a single year... the expectation has to be that basketball should also be able to rebound quickly... and with Lazy Mike driving the ship, we've not seen it over a 4-year period. bird4par, tkbbn and akumanina 3
IUFAN1976 Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said: And Cignetti has shown the world what is possible... turned a historically crappy program around in a single year... the expectation has to be that basketball should also be able to rebound quickly... and with Lazy Mike driving the ship, we've not seen it over a 4-year period. Especially spending at least $6 million to buy a team!
go iu bb Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 One of you Negative Nancy's please explain how a lane duck trustee is going to get Dolson fired if Dolson fires Woodson. For Domain to do that he'd likely have at least Whiten on his side. I just don't see it happening so I need details from one of you how Buckner will pull that off. You're giving him waaaay too much credit. Hell, if it really got ugly Dolson could just back off until the summer and then fire Woodson as a f-you to Buckner on July 1. There's nothing Buckner could do to stop that and everyone knows it. It could also "leak" that the university wants to fire Woodson but Buckner is blocking it and all the dirt that entails. Destroy his legacy. I doubt Woodson has as much booster support after this disappointing season is over. Pagoda 1
Hornsby Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Not sure if I'm a member of the Cook, Simons or Ferguson families that I'm happy with my investment in this POS "coach". At some point they have to realize they're repainting a sinking ship.I read Ferguson is Woodson best buddy and mentor. I assume he will do anything he can to keep him here. You honestly think Ferguson can look at the situation without blinders on? He would have to admit his buddy stinks as a coach. Another good football season again next year and bbal will indeed not be the top sport at iu anymore. The younger generation of iu fans has no idea what a winning bbal program is even like Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Hornsby 1
Papacap Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 I’m not plugged into IU athletics, politics or anything close. But to me, cig’s success makes it tougher to justify keeping Woodson if we barely make the tourney and get a quick bounce. Why? Because it’s easier to turn a basketball program around than football. So why the hell hasn’t IU basketball been consistently good since the early 90s? The biggest issue I see is the apathy from IU fans regarding basketball is high . That’s the only thing that can save Woodson. People have just stopped giving a ****. go iu bb and MemphisHoosier 2
AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 8 minutes ago, Papacap said: I’m not plugged into IU athletics, politics or anything close. But to me, cig’s success makes it tougher to justify keeping Woodson if we barely make the tourney and get a quick bounce. Why? Because it’s easier to turn a basketball program around than football. So why the hell hasn’t IU basketball been consistently good since the early 90s? The biggest issue I see is the apathy from IU fans regarding basketball is high . That’s the only thing that can save Woodson. People have just stopped giving a ****. The fan apathy is high because of apathy on the part of the administration. Bad hires... keeping bad coaches for 4 years or longer... deserthoosier and tkbbn 2
8bucks Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 It’s a new kind of arms race in college athletics. It used to be based on getting money for facilities to stay up with or ahead of the pack. Better facilities, in theory, better recruiting and coaches. Now, it is money for NIL. But these donors seem to have a stronger voice in who the coach will be. Will the money dry up if we keep Woody and keep being basically a top 35-50 team? Or do those donors give only because of his influence and relationship? How do you keep part of the donor base happy if they want to move on while another important group wants to keep the coach. Dolson has a lot of experience working with these groups so he is probably a great guy to handle it. Hopefully he can find a way to “honor” Woody with an exit plan that keeps important donors happy and gets us back on a winning track. MikeRoberts 1
AZ Hoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Just now, 8bucks said: It’s a new kind of arms race in college athletics. It used to be based on getting money for facilities to stay up with or ahead of the pack. Better facilities, in theory, better recruiting and coaches. Now, it is money for NIL. But these donors seem to have a stronger voice in who the coach will be. Will the money dry up if we keep Woody and keep being basically a top 35-50 team? Or do those donors give only because of his influence and relationship? How do you keep part of the donor base happy if they want to move on while another important group wants to keep the coach. Dolson has a lot of experience working with these groups so he is probably a great guy to handle it. Hopefully he can find a way to “honor” Woody with an exit plan that keeps important donors happy and gets us back on a winning track. Just "honor" his @$$ out of Bloomington. ASAP. tkbbn, AKHoosier, Hoosierfan2017 and 1 other 4
Brass Cannon Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 10 minutes ago, 8bucks said: It’s a new kind of arms race in college athletics. It used to be based on getting money for facilities to stay up with or ahead of the pack. Better facilities, in theory, better recruiting and coaches. Now, it is money for NIL. But these donors seem to have a stronger voice in who the coach will be. Will the money dry up if we keep Woody and keep being basically a top 35-50 team? Or do those donors give only because of his influence and relationship? How do you keep part of the donor base happy if they want to move on while another important group wants to keep the coach. Dolson has a lot of experience working with these groups so he is probably a great guy to handle it. Hopefully he can find a way to “honor” Woody with an exit plan that keeps important donors happy and gets us back on a winning track. Kind of interesting that yeah with NIL will be interesting if facilities get more bare bones with only the necessities.
WeeDerkaNaut Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 If IUFB takes off how much would losing donor money really affect our sports programs considering the money FB brings in?
Hornsby Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 If IUFB takes off how much would losing donor money really affect our sports programs considering the money FB brings in?Gotta keep the Scott's and cooks happy. This is why you should never hire a former player. We now have to tip toe around his feelings. Just can him already.Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk tkbbn, deserthoosier, WeeDerkaNaut and 1 other 4
JSHoosier Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 38 minutes ago, 8bucks said: It’s a new kind of arms race in college athletics. It used to be based on getting money for facilities to stay up with or ahead of the pack. Better facilities, in theory, better recruiting and coaches. Now, it is money for NIL. But these donors seem to have a stronger voice in who the coach will be. Will the money dry up if we keep Woody and keep being basically a top 35-50 team? Or do those donors give only because of his influence and relationship? How do you keep part of the donor base happy if they want to move on while another important group wants to keep the coach. Dolson has a lot of experience working with these groups so he is probably a great guy to handle it. Hopefully he can find a way to “honor” Woody with an exit plan that keeps important donors happy and gets us back on a winning track. "It's my honor to present you with your pink slip. Clean out your office." Hornsby, tkbbn and KNOBYDOX 3
Pagoda Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 34 minutes ago, WeeDerkaNaut said: If IUFB takes off how much would losing donor money really affect our sports programs considering the money FB brings in? The players will get paid with rev share (school pays players directly) and NIL starting next season. The rev share is capped, so the differentiator is still NIL which isn’t capped, and NIL can only come from donors, so we still need them. Basically, our athletic dept revenue is #25-30 in the country. We need everything we can get to keep getting more competitive with the schools with big FB programs. WeeDerkaNaut, 8bucks and tkbbn 3
TTT Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Is Indiana men’s basketball actively recruiting or buying any players for the future upon retirement or job changes of current players. Does coach have enough players already to last him until retirement? Or is that just an off season activity now? Hornsby 1
Hornsby Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Is Indiana men’s basketball actively recruiting or buying any players for the future upon retirement or job changes of current players. Does coach have enough players already to last him until retirement? Or is that just an off season activity now?The king just offered some guy a scholarship. Not ranked I believe. But I think mostly the king just buys players in the spring. I'd love to see the king try and put a roster together with only 2 million in NIL. He would be so screwed.Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk TTT and tkbbn 2
TTT Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 21 minutes ago, Hornsby said: The king just offered some guy a scholarship. Not ranked I believe. But I think mostly the king just buys players in the spring. I'd love to see the king try and put a roster together with only 2 million in NIL. He would be so screwed. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk 21 minutes ago, Hornsby said: The king just offered some guy a scholarship. Not ranked I believe. But I think mostly the king just buys players in the spring. I'd love to see the king try and put a roster together with only 2 million in NIL. He would be so screwed. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk See where his strategy is high school decommits and spring transfer portal. Maybe, he utilizes his cell phone (great opportunities for those who might have a 20+ point night) and coach reads it and offers the guy a job to play for IU….in his developmental player program.
AZ Hoosier Posted January 5, 2025 Posted January 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Hornsby said: The king just offered some guy a scholarship. Not ranked I believe. But I think mostly the king just buys players in the spring. I'd love to see the king try and put a roster together with only 2 million in NIL. He would be so screwed. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk The cynic in me sees Woodson screwing over his replacement with offering a team full of "not ranked guys"... kind of a big middle finger to "the school he loves" on his way out.
Recommended Posts