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Fire (or Force 'Contemplated Retirement') Coach Woodson Thread

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8 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

I really don't get why some wouldn't want Few. The man can flat out coach basketball. Sure, he's not a sexy hire but damn, the guy is one hell of a coach. Give him our NIL and we're in business pretty quick. 

I'd absolutely love it. 

I think most would want him … only after brad says no.  

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10 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

I really don't get why some wouldn't want Few. The man can flat out coach basketball. Sure, he's not a sexy hire but damn, the guy is one hell of a coach. Give him our NIL and we're in business pretty quick. 

I'd absolutely love it. 

Splitting hairs here, but it's easy to play devil's advocate with Few:

1.) He's older. I know that was ok with Cig, but that limits the time he'd be here and you do wonder about energy levels at a new job. 

2.) He's a very introverted guy. IU had that with Miller and it was a problem. That really laid back personality might work much better at a smaller smaller school in a much smaller conference. 

3.) He has gotten to a lot of Sweet 16s, the question is how much of a that is from building a great record in a less stellar conference? Gonzaga has gotten a lot of really high seeds from good records in a less difficult conference. High seeds make that first weekend of the tournament a lot easier. 

4.) There was that DUI.

5.) Did losing Lloyd as his lead recruiter hurt his recruiting? Wasnt he Few's pipeline to Euros that had created so much of his success? Will he still experience the same level of success w/o them? 

Just throwing that all out there...

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I really don't get why some wouldn't want Few. The man can flat out coach basketball. Sure, he's not a sexy hire but damn, the guy is one hell of a coach. Give him our NIL and we're in business pretty quick. 
I'd absolutely love it. 
I heard for years few would never come here. What changed?

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1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

Splitting hairs here, but it's easy to play devil's advocate with Few:

1.) He's older. I know that was ok with Cig, but that limits the time he'd be here and you do wonder about energy levels at a new job. 

2.) He's a very introverted guy. IU had that with Miller and it was a problem. That really laid back personality might work much better at a smaller smaller school in a much smaller conference. 

3.) He has gotten to a lot of Sweet 16s, the question is how much of a that is from building a great record in a less stellar conference? Gonzaga has gotten a lot of really high seeds from good records in a less difficult conference. High seeds make that first weekend of the tournament a lot easier. 

4.) There was that DUI.

Just throwing that all out there...

I can't imagine, on any realistic list, he wouldn't be in the Top 3-5 candidates, even if some of these points are valid. 

1-3 are more than arguable 

4 ... if he allows that to happen again he's a f'ing moron. Been there, done that, easily avoidable. 

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My kid has a game tomorrow so I will miss the game. But I am certainly taping it. I want to watch our defiant king try and stick it to all of us

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Taping it? Are you sure the VCR is set correctly? Is it a new tape? Make sure it's not labeled "wedding" or anything...

Just trying to help ya out!

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

RE: Stevens, obviously sticking where he is makes the most sense on paper IMO. There are still valid reasons he could choose to come to IU though, and we know he is not deterred by general consensus of what he “should” or should not do. The Eli Lilly to Butler move proves that. Seems to me his choice would boil down to 1) minority ownership stake in one of the two most valuable NBA franchises vs 2) paid handsomely to return to his home state as a beloved figure and try to win the college title that eluded him at Butler. 

I know what I would choose, less clear to me how Brad and his family weigh things out. 

There’s a lot to like in regards to #1 in your example.  Who wouldn’t want to own the Boston Celtics?  That team has money running out its @$$ and will forever be part of NBA lore.  In regards to #2, Stevens would be revered in this state if he were to return and lead IU back to prominence.  He can’t lose either way.

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47 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

While we're waiting on the official word on Woodson, it's nice to see some national writers admitting that IU is a great program just waiting for the right coach. And also, that it just can't seem to get out of its own way...

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/as-mike-woodsons-tenure-ends-time-for-indiana-to-reboot-and-rise-again

But IU fans are not delusional or living in the past by expecting better than what they’ve gotten over the last two-plus decades. There’s no reason Indiana cannot be at least a periodic contender for national titles and Final Fours, and a regular contender in the Big Ten.

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53 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Closed the link after I saw Alford at the top lmao

It was in alphabetical order....Thank goodness.  I give it about a negative 1000000% chance it would be Alford, but they probably still felt obligated to put him on the list.  I will quit watching IU if they do. 

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Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

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1 minute ago, 4iufourever said:

It was in alphabetical order....Thank goodness.  I give it about a negative 1000000% chance it would be Alford, but they probably still felt obligated to put him on the list.  I will quit watching IU if they do. 

Moreso just a sign of a bad list alphabetical or not. lol 

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One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

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Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 
So much shady stuff went on imo it's probably unreal

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7 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

I would love this.  FOIA some emails.  I don’t know the conflict disclosure requirements, but I bet Woody is a client of Quinn’s wealth management firm and I also bet they do real estate deals together.  
 

Quinn’s cronyism and neglect of IUBB has been disgusting and disgraceful.

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