Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[coonhounds 9,335]

Ugh, this is giving me the, see photo below, vibes. While I believe it is great to have the former players in and around the program, they definitely need to stop trying to tell us whippersnappers how the program should be ran like it was back in my day. It don't work like that anymore and all of their coaching/executive records prove that, lol!

The funny thing is this program isn't being run like it was back in their day. Infact it isn't even close. Their teams were prepared and aimed at perfection. Discipline was a priority. We have none of that. Toughness was a priority in their day like good teams have today. The offense and defense has changed with the three point line and shot clock times. Everything else to be good is the same. We have none of that. We aren't organized prepared smart or very tough. Probably a coaching and preparation issue

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2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I remember beating my head against the wall trying to explain to non-IU fans what an awful experience Archie Miller basketball was. They just didn't get it, but they weren't watching us closely. They didn't see us struggling to score 60 points in most games, a coach who subbed himself out of leads and then made his assistants take questions from the media or a guy taking the ball out of bounds and having no one to inbound it to because the other four guys had all run to the other end. 

 

From a bird's eye view, it's probably harder for the average fan to see what's wrong here. But all of us know because we're experiencing it every day. 

Casual fans may feel that way, however, many rival friends are begging us to keep Woodson.  Many national guys are roasting him in the media.  

[Uspshoosier 46,601]

This is simple.  They are either make a change or they don’t.   If they do make a change awesome the program and fans can move forward with some hope that things can be turned around.   If they don’t make a change then you know the program that you knew doesn’t really care and lets you know it will be ok to cut bait until a change is made.   I personally don’t see anyway he is coaching after this year however if he is then my investment meter will be lower then it is this season and I will enjoy the rest of college basketball.   
King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn and Buckner 

that’s 5 shots 

[reconmkd 4,484]

1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

The funny thing is this program isn't being run like it was back in their day. Infact it isn't even close. Their teams were prepared and aimed at perfection. Discipline was a priority. We have none of that. Toughness was a priority in their day like good teams have today. The offense and defense has changed with the three point line and shot clock times. Everything else to be good is the same. We have none of that. We aren't organized prepared smart or very tough. Probably a coaching and preparation issue

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I completely understand and agree with all of this, however, it sure as heck seems like they (former players and boosters) think it is going in the right direction. 

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8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

This is simple.  They are either make a change or they don’t.   If they do make a change awesome the program and fans can move forward with some hope that things can be turned around.   If they don’t make a change then you know the program that you knew doesn’t really care and lets you know it will be ok to cut bait until a change is made.   I personally don’t see anyway he is coaching after this year however if he is then my investment meter will be lower then it is this season and I will enjoy the rest of college basketball.   
King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn and Buckner 

that’s 5 shots 

That's 10 shots, see my previous post, lol!

[Stuhoo 81,971]

7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

This is simple.  They are either make a change or they don’t.   If they do make a change awesome the program and fans can move forward with some hope that things can be turned around.   If they don’t make a change then you know the program that you knew doesn’t really care and lets you know it will be ok to cut bait until a change is made.   I personally don’t see anyway he is coaching after this year however if he is then my investment meter will be lower then it is this season and I will enjoy the rest of college basketball.   
King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn and Buckner 

that’s 5 shots 

No. Just no.

You don’t get to laundry-list the five names as a self-rigged method of allowing for Friday afternoon day drinking. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,797]

30 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yep he said IU has the right coach, just not the right players

With NIL it's very hard to win right away.

And he said at a job like IU you have to have someone who knows what it means to play at IU. Woody knows. Maybe he was pitching for May

So the "right" coach went out and bought the "wrong" players? Incompetence. Guilt by association. Facts are stubborn things!

[Hornsby 2,329]

I completely understand and agree with all of this, however, it sure as heck seems like they (former players and boosters) think it is going in the right direction. 

Deep down they likely don't but it's their boy. They will stick up for him til the bitter end no matter what. And ferguson will keep giving him money til the day he croaks. Ferguson and his unlimited funds are financing this fiasco.

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[Chris007 46,203]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

So the "right" coach went out and bought the "wrong" players? Incompetence. Guilt by association. Facts are stubborn things!

He also said just remember he went to the Sweet 16 to only get beat by Miami who was good that year.

The problem is Isiah that wasn't the Sweet 16

[JSHoosier 20,526]

40 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

Thomas was a terrible coach and executive. So that just confirms Woodson ain't it.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,837]

7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

This is simple.  They are either make a change or they don’t.   If they do make a change awesome the program and fans can move forward with some hope that things can be turned around.   If they don’t make a change then you know the program that you knew doesn’t really care and lets you know it will be ok to cut bait until a change is made.   I personally don’t see anyway he is coaching after this year however if he is then my investment meter will be lower then it is this season and I will enjoy the rest of college basketball.   
King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn and Buckner 

that’s 5 shots 

Amen!

[Hornsby 2,329]

So the "right" coach went out and bought the "wrong" players? Incompetence. Guilt by association. Facts are stubborn things!

All he did was throw massive amounts of money at guys ranked high in the portal.

Rice
Goode
Carlyle
Tucker

They are all terribly overpaid.

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6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

No. Just no.

You don’t get to laundry-list the five names as a self-rigged method of allowing for Friday afternoon day drinking. 

That's 10 shots, 

[choosierred1 81]

Don't forget Isiah, he's on the local Indy radio show today describing why IU needs to keep Woodson. 

This came to mind.

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[JSHoosier 20,526]

18 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Drinking game in here.   Anytime someone posts King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn or Buckner you have to take a shot 

Alcohol poisoning would be better than watching IUBB.

[Uspshoosier 46,601]

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[Hornsby 2,329]

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Walsh won't be here next year unless Isiah and ferguson get their way.

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[Stuhoo 81,971]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Walsh won't be here next year unless Isiah and ferguson get their way.

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While I understand the need to start with a clean slate, if that's so then that's too bad. I kinda like what I see from Walsh.

[go iu bb 6,663]

28 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Drinking game in here.   Anytime someone posts King, Ferguson, Cooks, Quinn or Buckner you have to take a shot 

Man, Hornsby will give the whole board alcohol poisoning in less than an hour. I'm not going to play this game.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,837]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

While I understand the need to start with a clean slate, if that's so then that's too bad. I kinda like what I see from Walsh.

From my perspective of trying to follow our high school recruiting efforts Walsh was really active in IL, OH, KY and IN high schools and he shouldn't shoulder all of the blame for our failure to land any of these kids.  That's on Woody and his lazy recruiting approach.  Now having said that, I will add that I haven't been seeing hardly any life to high school recruiting since last fall from anyone on our staff.