Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971 1,663]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

Need to announce it now to calm things down.  By waiting until the season is over you’re leaving the door open for something very bad to happen.  Will it?  Probably not.  But why wait if you know he’s gone?  That is malpractice to the highest degree.

Why? Tom Allen's fate was decided three weeks before it was announced and that turned out alright. 

[Scotty R 2,390]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But Scotty said you can't interview candidates till the season is over which we know is not trust as the example I pointed out

I said you can't talk to the coaches but I said you can back channel through their representative. Might want to check your reading skills 

[Chris007 46,614]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Opposing team fans are making signs and chanting for us to keep Mike Woodson. 

He has a winning record overall, 5-5 in conference play.

Jim Larranaga took Miami to a F4 not long ago and was retired at the start of the season. 

We're not serious in the slightest way. We like internal politics too much at IU to get stuff done. 

You might as well talk to the wall, they have a better chance to understand what you're saying. 

[steubenhoosier 1,096]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

IU is not going to officially interview any single candidate currently under contract until the end of the regular season regardless if Mike Woodson is fired today, tomorrow, or at the conclusion of the regular season. 

Probably true, but you are parsing your words.

They may not “officially “ interview anyone. Doesn’t mean they won’t have conversations.

Comes across as less smarmy if the announcement has already happened 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,285]

Feel free to skewer me, but I would take this entire team back with a competent coach. Every player on this roster has shown flashes of what they were advertised to be, they’re just being mismanaged at an unfathomable level. 

I've been thinking about that and I agree.

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[Kentuckysucks 2,501]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Why? Tom Allen's fate was decided three weeks before it was announced and that turned out alright. 

That was football.

[Artie86 2,226]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

She's telling you right now that he's gone at the end of the season so you don't have to root for the team to lose. It's already been decided, it's just not going to be officially announced until the conclusion of the season. 

I'm definitely not trying to drag this out and sorry if it has already been officially established, but did she 100% say he is gone at the end of the year, or is it just assumed? Asking for a friend.

[Mopladysman 442]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

What's the issue? She's all but telling you that Mike Woodson is gone after this season. 

That's what everybody wants correct?

Is she?  What is the evaluation part of the process she refers to?

[Scotty R 2,390]

2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Yeah, he has a winning record at this point... at least on paper. He's 14-7 against a preseason full of cupcakes... lost 2 against B4A... and 5-5 against what's is largely the B1G bottom feeders... and it's about to get real.

Didn't say it was good enough but show me where a coach was fired mid season with a winning record that didn't get fired for rule violations.

[AH1971 1,663]

3 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Probably true, but you are parsing your words.

They may not “officially “ interview anyone. Doesn’t mean they won’t have conversations.

Comes across as less smarmy if the announcement has already happened 

I’m not parsing anything. If you think firing Woodson today means Dusty May is going to officially interview tomorrow then you’re nuts.

[KathywithaC 642]

45 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Even if it would clearly be in everyone’s best interest, especially Indiana University, to let him go now?  WOW.

I’m not surprised Cathy.  In my 8 years at IU I had interactions with a lot of high ranking professors, Provost Robel, etc.  I knew people very close to McRobbie.  People on this board would fall over if they knew just how inept this people are.  I’m not sure I met a single IU employee who could last a week in the private sector. 

 

I think your first paragraph is a subjective one, but everyone can decide that through their own lens. But the culture of decision-making at IU is ingrained to such a degree that changes do not happen quickly, nor do they happen without input from people who often don’t have the slightest idea about what’s going on. Been that way for years all over the University and definitely been that way in the athletic department. Quite a few good coaches have come out of it but some really bad or ill-placed ones have resulted from it, too. I know it drives people here and everywhere nuts, but it isn’t changing anytime soon, in my opinion.

[AH1971 1,663]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Do you think Dolson needs a 8 hr grueling intervew with Dusty May? Do you think there isn't already or won't be backchanneling going on with his agent or the obligatory reaching out to BS before seasons end?

Of course not, which means there’s no contractual reason to fire Woodson today. 

[IUHoosierJoe 1,310]

2 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Didn't say it was good enough but show me where a coach was fired mid season with a winning record that didn't get fired for rule violations.

Alford was fired at UCLA mid-season with a winning record (7-6).  Since you asked.

[Hoosier DaDa 2,918]

3 hours ago, mamasa said:

I'm definitely in the minority, but I'd give those with eligibility (and who want to stay) another shot. Woodson has hindered/ruined what we could have seen from these players by his lack of coaching 

Agreed but with that said glad Leal and Galloway are out of eligibility. 

[KathywithaC 642]

5 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I'm definitely not trying to drag this out and sorry if it has already been officially established, but did she 100% say he is gone at the end of the year, or is it just assumed? Asking for a friend.

No, I did not say that. In my opinion, he will be done when the season ends, but I haven’t heard one person say that decision has been made. 

[AH1971 1,663]

5 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I'm definitely not trying to drag this out and sorry if it has already been officially established, but did she 100% say he is gone at the end of the year, or is it just assumed? Asking for a friend.

My interpretation is that she’s laughing at guys like @Chris007 and @ap2345 who have this board thinking Mike Woodson is coaching on some game to game basis. She’s ending all speculation to that.

[Chris007 46,614]

3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I think your first paragraph is a subjective one, but everyone can decide that through their own lens. But the culture of decision-making IU is ingrained to such a degree that changes do not happen quickly, nor do they happen without input from people who often don’t have the slightest idea about what’s going on. Been that way for years all over the University and definitely been that way in the athletic department. Quite a few good coaches have come out of it but some really bad or ill-placed ones have resulted from it, too. I know it drives people here and everywhere nuts, but it isn’t changing anytime soon, in my opinion.

Would you include yourself as a person who often doesn't have the slightest idea about what's going on? Just wondering

[SamIam 679]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Do you think Dolson needs a 8 hr grueling intervew with Dusty May? Do you think there isn't already or won't be backchanneling going on with his agent or the obligatory reaching out to BS before seasons end?

I think Dolson and May have an existing relationship so hopefully in his case its just Scotty D shooting him a "u in?" text lol

[Home Jersey 9,221]

4 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I think your first paragraph is a subjective one, but everyone can decide that through their own lens. But the culture of decision-making IU is ingrained to such a degree that changes do not happen quickly, nor do they happen without input from people who often don’t have the slightest idea about what’s going on. Been that way for years all over the University and definitely been that way in the athletic department. Quite a few good coaches have come out of it but some really bad or ill-placed ones have resulted from it, too. I know it drives people here and everywhere nuts, but it isn’t changing anytime soon, in my opinion.

Hey now, if you're gonna start stealing my parody lines, you're gonna have to pay a ghostwriter fee...

[Artie86 2,226]

11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Firing him midseason gives the program a chance to move on from a coach they clearly isn’t the right fit.   Team is still talented enough to make a run and  if it was the coach that was holding them back.  It would give the program a chance to salvage the season for the players.   Not happening but that would be the good I see.    

Firing him midseason establishes optics that the University is serious about an immediate change and new direction.