Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[hper50 1,360]

3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Pretty sure it's a fool's errand and a moot discussion. I have serious doubts that Brad Stevens comes to Bloomington.

Hey... We got 2 months to kill... just sparking some conversation!

[Home Jersey 9,579]

What really sucks is having two months of the season left with very little actual substance to discuss. The fact is, we should be talking about Dusty’s first year at IU right now. Instead we have to speculate and beat multiple dead horses: should Woody go now, or end of season? How realistic is Brad Stevens (or not)? Everyone has different ideas but the product on the court sucks and until an announcement on the coaching future has been made we’re just spinning our wheels. The narrative around IUBB needs to change asap so the healing can begin.

[AH1971 1,788]

45 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I am 100% with Usps; there are many good choices that can and would succeed at IU.

However, the admiration for Stevens is based on straight facts. As a great philosopher said, all you have to do is 'Google him.'

• As a college head coach at Butler:
  • Six seasons
  • Five NCAA tourney appearances
  • Five seasons of 26 or more wins
  • Two national championship games
  • .772 winning percentage
• As an NBA head coach:
  • Eight seasons
  • Seven playoff appearances
  • 56% winning percentage
• As an NBA GM (relevant because a college head coach builds the roster):
  • Four seasons
  • Three conference finals
  • One NBA champion

I think the questions surrounding Stevens have little to do with his resume. Does he have the drive to get back into college coaching? Is he prepared to recruit not just locally but nationally 8-9 months out of the year? Does he want to babysit 18-22 year old college students? 

I think these are all legitimate concerns and a big reason why he transitioned out of college and out of coaching altogether. I don't want Stevens here unless he's 110% committed, rather than simply fulfilling some childhood dream. 

[Chris007 47,345]

10 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

Anyone care to summarize or give the key points of the Doyel article? 

Quinn forced him on to IU with Steve

He is Steve's godson and was untouchable the first 3 years

IU hired Pam, she loves athletics, She let Scott get rid of Allen and let him hire Cigs

Woodson still sucks, but his buddies can't save him any longer, Scott has power now.

Woodson is done either now or March

[Motley's 123]

6 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

People are saying Brad Stevens wants to return to CBB. | TheSabre.com

[Chris007 47,345]

7 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

No clue who this is, claims the change comes in March. I assume once the season is officially done:

 

https://x.com/bball_war3/status/1879895915865206840?s=46

We've been telling you that since the Bahamas. I still think we hear it announced sooner than March

[Demo 20,699]

5 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

No clue who this is, claims the change comes in March. I assume once the season is officially done:

 

https://x.com/bball_war3/status/1879895915865206840?s=46

Given that the thing is pretty inevitable at this point, this guy’s take is the equivalent of, “Christmas is coming and it’s coming in December.”

[Artie86 2,323]

Just now, Chris007 said:

We've been telling you that since the Bahamas. I still think we hear it announced sooner than March

The "change" might also mean the new coach will be officially determined by then......jmo

[Chris007 47,345]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think the questions surrounding Stevens have little to do with his resume. Does he have the drive to get back into college coaching? Is he prepared to recruit not just locally but nationally 8-9 months out of the year? Does he want to babysit 18-22 year old college students? 

I think these are all legitimate concerns and a big reason why he transitioned out of college and out of coaching altogether. I don't want Stevens here unless he's 110% committed, rather than simply fulfilling some childhood dream. 

I think recruiting outside of your school is like down to 1-2 months. As Urban Meyer said the other day recruiting these days is basically asking a recruit or his agent what his number is, then meeting it or saying no thanks. 

[Juwan Moye 366]

I mean, there is active discussion in this thread about if they go the interim route or not so it doesn’t seem like anything is actually “settled”.

[hper50 1,360]

Just now, Chris007 said:

We've been telling you that since the Bahamas. I still think we hear it announced sooner than March

Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like that post is alluding to who will we hire in March. not just that we'll fire Woody in March

[Chris007 47,345]

1 minute ago, hper50 said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like that post is alluding to who will we hire in March. not just that we'll fire Woody in March

My bad, I read it wrong

[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,272]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think the questions surrounding Stevens have little to do with his resume. Does he have the drive to get back into college coaching? Is he prepared to recruit not just locally but nationally 8-9 months out of the year? Does he want to babysit 18-22 year old college students? 

I think these are all legitimate concerns and a big reason why he transitioned out of college and out of coaching altogether. I don't want Stevens here unless he's 110% committed, rather than simply fulfilling some childhood dream. 

Yup!  And if he subsequently decided he didn't like college coaching, he'd have numerous opportunities to jump back into the NBA in a heartbeat.

[hper50 1,360]

Just now, Chris007 said:

My bad, I read it wrong

I could definitely be reading too far into it

[go iu bb 6,927]

59 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Yup!  And if he subsequently decided he didn't like college coaching, he'd have numerous opportunities to jump back into the NBA in a heartbeat.

IF (big IF) Stevens does come to coach at IU, just think of the fanbase anxiety every year worrying if he'll jump back to the NBA.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,537]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think the questions surrounding Stevens have little to do with his resume. Does he have the drive to get back into college coaching? Is he prepared to recruit not just locally but nationally 8-9 months out of the year? Does he want to babysit 18-22 year old college students? 

I think these are all legitimate concerns and a big reason why he transitioned out of college and out of coaching altogether. I don't want Stevens here unless he's 110% committed, rather than simply fulfilling some childhood dream. 

Babysitting 18-22 year olds? No. If you recruit correctly, you aren't babysitting a soul. 

Our top 4--- Brad, Beard, Pearl, and Dusty-- Brad is, in my eyes, clearly the best candidate-- proven the most, still young, less baggage, etc. I don't really think it's close. Dusty would be #2 for me, on that list. 

These seem like made-up concerns. 

[OKHOOSIER 3,357]

While I will probably stay in the skeptic column when it comes to Brad actually coming here, what does that timeline look like? The Celts are likely not going to be done playing basketball until June. Would he leave before the season was over? I would lean towards we should wait as long as he wants if he commits but do we really want to be without a coach for two+ months? 
 

 

[mbredenk101 570]

If it's someone like Stevens that is not necessarily needing to wait until the end of his season to leave his current job...just hire him now and have him start coaching at next Wednesday's game against NW. This would not only stop any and all boycotting at the next home game....it would be a wild and crazy sell out!

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[AH1971 1,788]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Babysitting 18-22 year olds? No. If you recruit correctly, you aren't babysitting a soul. 

Our top 4--- Brad, Beard, Pearl, and Dusty-- Brad is, in my eyes, clearly the best candidate-- proven the most, still young, less baggage, etc. I don't really think it's close. Dusty would be #2 for me, on that list. 

These seem like made-up concerns. 

How are they made up concerns? Every career move he has made suggests otherwise. How many guys leave college for the NBA and come back successful or come back at all? 

[Deserthoozier 1,065]

27 minutes ago, Motley's said:

He'd be great, but he's never leaving Baylor

"Everything we do around the program is Christ-centered," he told CBN News. "The great thing is we can prepare champions for life. And that's a spiritual, academic, and character formation in athletics. So for us to be able to incorporate the spiritual part has been so key and paramount to all our success and He's blessed us."

Drew told RFI that seeing players accept Christ is "more exciting" than winning any game. 

"Seeing the spiritual growth guys. Players who accept Christ, players who maybe prayed for the first time with the team, players who get baptized, players who come back and get Bible studies and go to church and you know that's what really exciting," he expressed.  

"Sometimes those victories are not written and talked about in the newspapers or TV, but again, those are the ones that really matter," he added. 

When asked about the importance of religious freedom in America, Drew said he is glad to be at a Christian university where he can openly share his faith.

"Baylor University gives you that opportunity. Spiritually we're allowed to have an impact in our players' lives, so many of my coaching friends [that] are devout in their faith are at institutions where they can't," he explained. "I am a much better husband, father, spiritually I have grown from the staff that we have because we will do coach's bible studies together and we start every meeting in prayer."

Drew adds that it is the culture of "joy, Jesus, others, and yourself" that will continue to propel the program forward. 

"We have also been a Christ-centered program and that is our foundation," he said. 

https://cbn.com/news/us/joy-jesus-others-yourself-baylor-university-mens-basketball-coach-opens-about-his-faith

So I guess Baylor  was just a couple of spoonfuls short of the religious fervor during the  basketball team murder scandal in the early 2000’s. Good thing Drew brought the XL ladle to force the kool aid down everyone’s gullet! ! Plus he tried to blackmail a player by threatening to report their immigration status to stop them from committing to IU during the Crean era. I’m sure it was so he could “save” them. No thanks!