Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[OKHOOSIER 2,917]

56 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I know many on here aren’t a Chris Beard fan, but the guy wins!  I don’t know what he allegedly did, but I would look his way if I were Scott Dolson.

Probably got answered, but allegedly choked his significant other. There’s also a pile of internet rumors about his drinking habits in Lubbock and Austin. While I don’t subscribe to assigning guilt arbitrarily, in my experience (work closely with state and federal police), this type of stuff does not happen in a vacuum. If DV has progressed to police interaction, it most likely has gone much further. He is HARD NO from me. 
 

Now, non-violent financial/recruiting/paying players types of violations? My morality stops lol and could not care less. 

[maharkn 1,788]

27 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Hatton played for a GOOOOOOD HS coach 

Was jones on the staff at that time?

[hper50 1,339]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing it is at least being discussed

I wonder what Woody values more.... his ego/reputation or the almighty dollar... I wonder if they'll negotiate the buyout if he goes now... could salvage a legacy which will continue to be damaged if he remains

[Pagoda 968]

5 minutes ago, hper50 said:

I wonder what Woody values more.... his ego/reputation or the almighty dollar... I wonder if they'll negotiate the buyout if he goes now... could salvage a legacy which will continue to be damaged if he remains

Fwiw his buyout is set and negotiated in his contract — he gets his whole remaining contract paid out $1M/yr.  Remaining contract is about $8.4M at the end of this season.

That said, they could agree to a smaller amount paid out sooner.  Regardless, IU knows what they owe Woody.

[8bucks 6,556]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm hearing it is at least being discussed

Hopefully, at a minimum, if Woody is not released midseason they make an announcement that he will be retiring at the end of the year.  If I were the AD, I would know that home crowds, media etc is just going to get worse if a bad season continues.  A lot of the booing comes from fans who have no other opportunity to express their opinion on the state of the program.  It gets the AD and trustees attention as that and empty arenas continue night after night.  So while true fans would likely not boo their team, they often have too because they do not feel their opinions are being considered.  

If they were to announce he is retiring, then more grace would be given during the season.  That does not mean there would be no boos from the crowd but I am pretty sure it dials that pressure down a lot.

 

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,483]

1 minute ago, Pagoda said:

Fwiw his buyout is set and negotiated in his contract — he gets his whole remaining contract paid $1M/yr.  Remaining contract is about $8.4M at the end of this season.

That said, they could agree to a smaller amount paid out sooner.  Regardless, IU knows what they owe the Woody.

The buyout isn’t an issue, it’s structured where we pay out 1M a year til he’s paid in full. We paid 10M+ to can Tom Allen

 

edit: I respond to the wrong person lol

[sirhoosierlot 2,878]

never thought i'd be jealous of louisville.... https://www.wdrb.com/sports/crawford-someone-has-to-say-it-louisville-basketball----not-broken/article_a8e35640-d345-11ef-8763-13a0b2b4fc3d.html

[cbp4iu 1,624]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

To be clear they said last night's performance was embarrassing. Nothing about Iowa or any of the other losses. It was only embarrassing for these guys when the fans booed 

When we lose by 15-20 vs OSU it won’t be embarrassing correct. 

[iu-dl 1,484]

I will never root against IU, but I have admittedly lost interest in IUBB with Woodson at the helm. I was paying attention on my phone last night at a high school swim meet for my boys, and finally thought "maybe this is it". Hopefully this is it. The boos, the chanting, the unengaged fan base. Dolson is paying attention....maybe we have Cignetti to thank. Flip the Brad/Dusty coin and lets get on with it.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,858]

I was one of the biggest “we need to hire a name” posters. Now, though, idk. Coach Cignetti wasn’t a name. The Louisville and UK coaches weren’t names. Dusty May was sorta a name but was making a big leap in competition. With the way NIL favors a school like IU, the biggest thing we need is a grinder who breathes, eats, and lives college basketball 365 days a year.

[hper50 1,339]

Just now, iu-dl said:

I will never root against IU, but I have admittedly lost interest in IUBB with Woodson at the helm. I was paying attention on my phone last night at a high school swim meet for my boys, and finally thought "maybe this is it". Hopefully this is it. The boos, the chanting, the unengaged fan base. Dolson is paying attention....maybe we have Cignetti to thank. Flip the Brad/Dusty coin and lets get on with it.

I coach an 8th grade basketball team and typically have the flexibility to plan my practices around IU games and other personal events. Last night I didn't even bother switching practice to another night. Never thought I'd see the day

[Hoosierfan2017 21,858]

11 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Hopefully, at a minimum, if Woody is not released midseason they make an announcement that he will be retiring at the end of the year.  If I were the AD, I would know that home crowds, media etc is just going to get worse if a bad season continues.  A lot of the booing comes from fans who have no other opportunity to express their opinion on the state of the program.  It gets the AD and trustees attention as that and empty arenas continue night after night.  So while true fans would likely not boo their team, they often have too because they do not feel their opinions are being considered.  

If they were to announce he is retiring, then more grace would be given during the season.  That does not mean there would be no boos from the crowd but I am pretty sure it dials that pressure down a lot.

 

There’s frankly zero downside to making that announcement now, imo. Usually you wouldn’t because you don’t want to lose your recruits. We only have one recruit committed, aren’t really going hard after anyone else in the 2025 class right now, and the kid we do have sounds like he committed to IU and not so much to Mike Woodson. 

[hper50 1,339]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I was one of the biggest “we need to hire a name” posters. Now, though, idk. Coach Cignetti wasn’t a name. The Louisville and UK coaches weren’t names. Dusty May was sorta a name but was making a big leap in competition. With the way NIL favors a school like IU, the biggest thing we need is a grinder who breathes, eats, and lives college basketball 365 days a year.

That b Dusty I do believe

[Brass Cannon 24,913]

4 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

My prayers are with you and your loved ones. Griefshare is a great organization and my sincere hope for you is to receive God’s grace, mercy, and peace.

Thanks. I’m not sure it’s right for me but it was good to try. 

[Home Jersey 8,663]

Calling my shot: they announce Woody is retiring at end of season on Friday the 24th around 5pm. Next home game is Sunday the 26th at noon. IMO, no way the admin can let another game like yesterday happen again. They need to preempt the madness

[Tasmanian Devil 1,689]

11 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Thanks. I’m not sure it’s right for me but it was good to try. 

Grief is difficult, and different for almost everyone. I hope you find peace, and PM if you ever need someone to talk with. God Bless

 

[Golfman25 5,753]

Debbie Downer enters the chat.  

Not to bring the room down, but the math to 10 wins and the tournament bubble still works (regardless of the crap play we saw last night).  The Penn State win allows us to lose IL.  So we are now even.  Have to will all remaining home games.   However, Ohio state, Northwestern and Washington all look beatable on the road as well -- so there is still room for some trade offs.  It is what it is.  

Now back to -- Fire Mike Woodson.   :)    

[maharkn 1,788]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Calling my shot: they announce Woody is retiring at end of season on Friday the 24th around 5pm. Next home game is Sunday the 26th at noon. IMO, no way the admin can let another game like yesterday happen again. They need to preempt the madness

I don't think he should make it to the end of the season.  Need to go ahead and hand the keys off to someone lse for the rest of the season.  

[Pagoda 968]

18 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I was one of the biggest “we need to hire a name” posters. Now, though, idk. Coach Cignetti wasn’t a name. The Louisville and UK coaches weren’t names. Dusty May was sorta a name but was making a big leap in competition. With the way NIL favors a school like IU, the biggest thing we need is a grinder who breathes, eats, and lives college basketball 365 days a year.

This is how I see it too.  I would love a McCollum or someone like that, just have to hope Scott can parse out who won’t translate to IU like Archie.  It’s hard for us as a fans to tell, we aren’t in the interviews with these guys.

[IUHoosierPenguin 13]

So Uh...Why hasn't Mike Woodson been fired yet?  Seems pretty cut and dry.