Mgbako Arrested, Paying Small Fine for Misdemeanor

[IndyResident16 567]

1 minute ago, Ngw7183 said:

And you can have all the training in the world and unlike Mr IndyResident who claims he could always walk away fine - that doesn’t always work.
 

The nature of a disagreement is 2 parties are involved. You can say everything perfect but if they want to be a pain, they can. You can say “walk away” but even that is not always a possibility.
 

Just had a perfect example of this today that the business was 100% in the wrong and the employee would not stop. I even said, all is fine, no worries. Didn’t matter. she was still coming full force. 

Lol.

You’ve got it all wrong. It’s 100% a choice to continue to engage and argue with an establishment who has refused you service. And almost every choice has a consequence. Hopefully MM’s future choices down the road aren’t met with similar consequences. Hopefully this is a lesson well learned.

[Home Jersey 12,244]

On the topic of workshops, which I'm quite sure do take place/are organized by the staff...

I wonder if Bloomington PD is involved with any, and if the program makes a conscious effort to socialize the players with the PD for situations exactly like this. Feels like community policing would have gone a long way in this never becoming a story. 

Granted, this was MCPD, so I imagine unlikely they're involved in any workshops and wouldn't have made a difference here. 

Bloomington PD was unavailable because they were busy addressing an actually dangerous situation... right? 

[Chris007 54,661]

15 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I don’t know this for certain, @BGleas and @Chris007 may know, but I’m reasonably confident that IUBB holds workshops on exactly this kind of topic.

100%

[tyappleg 5,581]

33 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

All,

The mods appreciate that the personal insults and extremely off-topic stuff has ceased. The board rules prohibit that and people are generally trying to abide by those rules.

So given that board rules are not the problem, I have a suggestion:

People come to this board for its information, humor, and intelligent, interesting posters. While there is no rule about repetitive, barely on-topic posts, those posts create a much lesser read for all of us when they persist.

Therefore, please take stock of your part in this community, and post in a way that informs, entertains, or advances the discussion.

THANKS

No thanks, I think I'll continue to repeatedly post the same thing I've posted about for the last 16 pages thank you very much

[Josh 12,908]

5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I use a credit card all the time. When I return something, or they can't provide what I ordered, they refund my money back to the card right then and there.  

And you better be getting points/rewards on that card!  Otherwise it's just financial malfeasance 

[Joe_hoopsier 977]

15 minutes ago, TeeterInNJ said:

Wish I could laugh/like/thanks this post at the same time lol. As for the NIL question, I'll post this again... the branding writes itself 

The Drive through the lane meal.

[Chris007 54,661]

4 minutes ago, TeeterInNJ said:

On the topic of workshops, which I'm quite sure do take place/are organized by the staff...

I wonder if Bloomington PD is involved with any, and if the program makes a conscious effort to socialize the players with the PD for situations exactly like this. Feels like community policing would have gone a long way in this never becoming a story. 

Granted, this was MCPD, so I imagine unlikely they're involved in any workshops and wouldn't have made a difference here. 

Bloomington PD was unavailable because they were busy addressing an actually dangerous situation... right? 

As Brian Evans said today he knows police officers in Bloomington who want to arrest out of state IUBB players. That’s crazy to me. 

[go iu bb 7,637]

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2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

As Brian Evans said today he knows police officers in Bloomington who want to arrest out of state IUBB players. That’s crazy to me. 

That is wild, if true. I'm fairly certain Rutgers athletics invites the local PD to various social events throughout the year - cook outs, their version of Hoosier Hysteria, flag football/pick up tournament, etc... I think its a great way for public servants to have some fun while getting familiar with members of the community. When there is a pre-existing relationship/rapport, de-escalation is a lot easier. 

[Chris007 54,661]

4 minutes ago, TeeterInNJ said:

That is wild, if true. I'm fairly certain Rutgers athletics invites the local PD to various social events throughout the year - cook outs, their version of Hoosier Hysteria, flag football/pick up tournament, etc... I think its a great way for public servants to have some fun while getting familiar with members of the community. When there is a pre-existing relationship/rapport, de-escalation is a lot easier. 

I only saw IUPD at Hoosier Hysteria 

[RaceToTheTop 28,422]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

Well, it's supposed to be the facts.  It's definitely not supposed to be written with a slant.  I suppose that could happen and I'm sure it has before.  But not enough times for me to be jaded to the vast majority of good ones imo

I'm sure I've mentioned it previously, but about twenty-years ago my house was burnt down by our neighbor.  My didn't know it at the time, but he was a pyromaniac.  This happened to be the fourth property in three months that he set on fire and he was arrested that night....footprints in the snow from his shed led them to the accelerant he used and he confessed.  

I can tell you that the police report wasn't completely accurate and omitted other facts.  They weren't trying to leave anything out or have anything stated inaccurately, but in the process of events you do have to rely on memory.  He ended up with a plea deal, but I certainly did speak at his hearing as I thought some important details were omitted.  

There is a reason we have a trial system and don't just sentence on police report only.  Eyewitness accounts, even ones that we know don't have a single bias to them, aren't not always accurate.

[Josh 12,908]

14 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

I don’t doubt it. I mean, crazy they would use their power for that but I don’t doubt the irrational feeling that IU basketball should be a full roster of kids from New Castle named Steve. 

I had that exact discussion with 2 fans this week. They fully both believed IU would be better off without all these kids like MM. “they are all trouble makers, don’t respect people, etc. etc” any attempt to point out how things are little different now or how Archie tired that etc ended in them doubling down. 

I know you keep putting this thought out there, but this one seems opposite to your "side" here.  There are certainly a lot of fans who want all the Indiana kids on the team, but those posters I know on here have agreed with your take on the arrest.  Those of use who want the best players regardless of zip code have thoughts of the arrest similar to me.  I've been posting here forever, I know these chuckleheads.

Anyway, back to cops are bad vs cops are good...

[RaceToTheTop 28,422]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

 

Anyway, back to cops are bad vs cops are good...

The problem is that it doesn't have to a cops are good v cops are bad argument.  Cops are human -- which means they aren't going to correct 100% of the time nor are they going to be incorrect 100% of the time.  And I don't see people really arguing that MM wasn't in error in his actions.

I just hope we aren't at a point where we assume the police acting improperly just because they are police but at the same time we aren't allowed to question their handling of a situation.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,839]

Ugh… was hoping this was over with..


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[Josh 12,908]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The problem is that it doesn't have to a cops are good v cops are bad argument.  Cops are human -- which means they aren't going to correct 100% of the time nor are they going to be incorrect 100% of the time.  And I don't see people really arguing that MM wasn't in error in his actions.

I just hope we aren't at a point where we assume the police acting improperly just because they are police but at the same time we aren't allowed to question their handling of a situation.

Fair.  Perhaps I should rephrase it to...trust the cops vs don't trust the cops

[Chris007 54,661]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The problem is that it doesn't have to a cops are good v cops are bad argument.  Cops are human -- which means they aren't going to correct 100% of the time nor are they going to be incorrect 100% of the time.  And I don't see people really arguing that MM wasn't in error in his actions.

I just hope we aren't at a point where we assume the police acting improperly just because they are police but at the same time we aren't allowed to question their handling of a situation.

I have a lot more problems with Taco Bell than I do the cops. This Taco Bell is known for this stuff. If I’m mad at the police it’s because they fell for the shenanigans. 

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Ugh… was hoping this was over with..


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First exhibition is October 29th and no real football team to watch.  About 118 hours more.

[BGleas 8,262]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I don’t know this for certain, @BGleas and @Chris007 may know, but I’m reasonably confident that IUBB holds workshops on exactly this kind of topic.

Not sure specifically, but I'd be really surprised if they don't regularly have security talking to the team about how to be safe, etc., on a college campus, just like they have PR training. 

[IndyResident16 567]

11 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Again, I had a very similar situation today with a rental car place (and no IndyResident, couldn’t really walk away in this scenario) where if they decided to call the cops and tell them I said all kinds of things, how they wanted me to leave, it would have went poorly.  Lucky I was able to quickly find and out but the employee was still going off.

Walking away and not being unruly to the point the police are called aren’t one and the same my guy. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by IndyResident16

[Golfman25 6,285]

27 minutes ago, Josh said:

Fair.  Perhaps I should rephrase it to...trust the cops vs don't trust the cops

How about “trust but verify.”