Caleb Love - UNC Transfer to Arizona

[Banksyrules]

2 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

@Banksyruleshas some ACC insight on Love.

I just got a reply from someone. 

“Very bad energy and I think the crux of last years fiasco. The most hot/cold player ever. Either terrible or the best ever depending on his mood”.   That’s all I’ll mention in this topic. 

[Brass Cannon]

One important thing to note about Love is he is looking for a change. He’s obviously not looking to be UNC Love anymore. It’s about what he envisions for himself and whether it’s realistic 

[Sardinefarts1991]

I definitely would love to see love here.  Someone athletic who can get to the hole like X.  Or some other really good shooting guard where Galloway can be a amazing spark off the bench and not be forced to start. 

[Alford Bailey]

No way he is the focal point here. Love will have to get over that but if Woody thinks he can work with him I think we win a NIL battle with Missouri.

[ziggyiu]

2 hours ago, Demo said:

Hubert did that kid no favors. 

This is it. At least as far as I watched UNC, which was only 5 - 10 games. 

I think it's difficult to evaluate a player when the system under which he is operating is so dysfunctional. UNC looked broken offensively both years under Hubert. Caleb and Brady got hot for a spell in the tourney, but the offense never had great flow, communication, recognizable sets, etc. outside of that run.

Caleb could have a terrible attitude, he may have the absolutely wrong mindset for the 2023 - 2024 Hoosiers. That's jazz the staff will dig into if they want them. 

Just regarding the on-the-court stuff though, it's too mired in bad coaching to definitively say he's selfish or lazy or any other thing like that. 

[RaceToTheTop]

11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

No way he is the focal point here. Love will have to get over that but if Woody thinks he can work with him I think we win a NIL battle with Missouri.

But.....we also win an NIL battle with Michigan, which is way behind in the Big Ten in terms of NIL.  And given that, he chose Michigan.  Think he is looking to be focal point first and NIL money second.

Personally, I don't think he ends up at either Indiana or Missouri.  Mizzou moved on after he left and brought in three guards through the portal -- John Tonje (Colorado State, 14.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 38% from three), Caleb Grill (9.5 points, 31 mpg at Iowa State) and Tamar Bates...plus already have a returning guard who put up 30 minutes per game last year.  

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Banksyrules said:

I just got a reply from someone. 

“Very bad energy and I think the crux of last years fiasco. The most hot/cold player ever. Either terrible or the best ever depending on his mood”.   That’s all I’ll mention in this topic. 

I heard from a very smart ACC guy that although his team mates might not like him, their girlfriends do.  :)

[HoosierInParadise]

I will say that I have not watched Caleb Love play very much but I see that he is described a lot as a ball hog. Could it be the case, like Bracey Wright, where he is a perceived ball hog but his coach was telling him to take as many shots as he can. I'm Basically wondering if Hubert Davis thought that the best version of his team last year included Love hogging the ball. I not saying it's a smart move but I am saying that Mike Davis did that with Bracey and it made everyone think Bracey was selfish and a ball hog.

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[Brass Cannon]

Something else to consider. Most elite programs roll the dice on a guy like Caleb love. Maybe not every year.  But pretty frequently.  
 

We have to trust Woodson and the culture he is building to weather it and if Love is a problem he needs to be benched and separated from the team. And Galloway take his spot. 

[Stuhoo]

30 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I will say that I have not watched Caleb Love play very much but I see that he is described a lot as a ball hog. Could it be the case, like Bracey Wright, where he is a perceived ball hog but his coach was telling him to take as many shots as he can. I'm Basically wondering if Hubert Davis thought that the best version of his team last year included Love hogging the ball. I not saying it's a smart move but I am saying that Mike Davis did that with Bracey and it made everyone think Bracey was selfish and a ball hog.

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Finally!

A player comp I can stand with.

[Brass Cannon]

38 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I will say that I have not watched Caleb Love play very much but I see that he is described a lot as a ball hog. Could it be the case, like Bracey Wright, where he is a perceived ball hog but his coach was telling him to take as many shots as he can. I'm Basically wondering if Hubert Davis thought that the best version of his team last year included Love hogging the ball. I not saying it's a smart move but I am saying that Mike Davis did that with Bracey and it made everyone think Bracey was selfish and a ball hog.

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Cornell once upon a time had a coach that literally told a player he wasn’t allowed to shoot a two point shot.  College coaches make some strange @$$ decisions. I could see this 

[RaceToTheTop]

IMO, the school that makes perfect sense for Love is Memphis.

1.  They definitely play a style of ball that gives players offensive freedom (sometimes to a default).

2.  As much of a critic as I've been of Penny Hardaway's, I thought this past season he did a decent job with the team he had.

3.  They do seem to have lots of playing time available for guards next year.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Finally!

A player comp I can stand with.

Has Bracey Wright ever been back to Indiana? It'd be nice to see Woody make a connection with those Davis years. Bracey Wright, Marshall Strickland, Marco Killingsworth, Rod Wilmont etc. That's a gap that just seems to be blatantly trashed, as if they never wore an IU uniform.

[Stuhoo]

7 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Has Bracey Wright ever been back to Indiana? It'd be nice to see Woody make a connection with those Davis years. Bracey Wright, Marshall Strickland, Marco Killingsworth, Rod Wilmont etc. That's a gap that just seems to be blatantly trashed, as if they never wore an IU uniform.

The Hoosier hysterics invited them both back for the fantasy camp this August. I believe that would be the first time for both of them.

[Sardinefarts1991]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier hysterics invited them both back for the fantasy camp this August. I believe that would be the first time for both of them.

And that's the group that was playing when I was a little and when I first became a fan, in 200 I started watching..  Absolutely loved rod wilmont, he was the guy I imagined being as a kid along with Ron artest.  I called him HOT ROD WILMONT!!

[NOLA Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier hysterics invited them both back for the fantasy camp this August. I believe that would be the first time for both of them.

I remember getting excited when I was at IU that Ben Allen friended me back on Facebook lol

I also seem to remember a FB group called “Guns Don’t Kill People, Marco Killingsworth Kills People” 

[Adillac]

Marco was awesome. 

[JSHoosier]

10 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

I remember getting excited when I was at IU that Ben Allen friended me back on Facebook lol

I also seem to remember a FB group called “Guns Don’t Kill People, Marco Killingsworth Kills People” 

Yeah, that was a FB group. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

The Hoosier hysterics invited them both back for the fantasy camp this August. I believe that would be the first time for both of them.

Clearly we need a thread to appreciate the seemingly forgotten era... I don't know if people remember but Strickland shot almost 48% from 3 on 5 attempts his senior year. That's what we need from Xavier Johnson this year.

[AKHoosier]

On 5/18/2023 at 9:59 AM, btownqb said:

Hey I'm an Indiana grad and I don't really care about their academic rep, truthfully, college is a scam. 

Get the best athletes in Bloomington. 

Best words ever spoken on this site in bold, iyam.