*RANT HERE*

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,672]

WE SUCK. 

 

I don't know what else to say anymore. 

[Josh 12,621]

Fire him.

[coonhounds 8,911]

I am getting better at handling losing! So there is that. Sad I spent so much money this weekend at the game for that performance and feel bad for my kids. But I am definitely dealing with it better. 30ore years of this and I may be able to laugh and smile about it. Time will tell

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[go iu bb 5,910]

You can't have injuries and expect to keep winning. Just look at the woman's team... Oh, wait, they're actually good despite injuries. 

[LamarCheeks 18,802]

Glad we finally have a place to rant, because there's no other place on this board where that occurs. 

[Brass Cannon 24,720]

Unless you get five 5 stars every year you have to be able to develop players. And I don’t recall the last time I trusted one of our coaches to do that. Sure every year there’s one or two guys who come back better but my guess is that player was just a self starter and got better with their own drive.  
 

Woodson was an nba coach where player development isn’t as much a coach responsibility.  And he wasn’t honestly that great at the skills an NBA coach needs.  
 

Jordan Geronimo should be a kick @$$ basketball player by now.   He’s got the physical tools.  And he’s just the latest in a long line a guys that should have become absolute beasts but after multiple years still seemed confused by the sport 

[Bowhunter 2,693]

We need more dogs!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7EChnZTJicw

[coonhounds 8,911]

Unless you get five 5 stars every year you have to be able to develop players. And I don’t recall the last time I trusted one of our coaches to do that. Sure every year there’s one or two guys who come back better but my guess is that player was just a self starter and got better with their own drive.  
 
Woodson was an nba coach where player development isn’t as much a coach responsibility.  And he wasn’t honestly that great at the skills an NBA coach needs.  
 
Jordan Geronimo should be a kick @$$ basketball player by now.   He’s got the physical tools.  And he’s just the latest in a long line a guys that should have become absolute beasts but after multiple years still seemed confused by the sport 

Yep player development and coaching seems to be holding us back. I didn't like crean but his player development for the most part made Archie and Woodson so far look like they don't have a clue.

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[Brass Cannon 24,720]

6 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Yep player development and coaching seems to be holding us back. I didn't like crean but his player development for the most part made Archie and Woodson so far look like they don't have a clue.

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Crean could at least coach shooting.  We were capable of beating any team but also losing to any team.  

[coonhounds 8,911]

Crean could at least coach shooting.  We were capable of beating any team but also losing to any team.  

Yes but also year to year player development was a thing. Generally 1 or 2 players made a noticeable improvement. Some made big jumps. Not much improvement lately. Archie it felt like guys got worse even

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[AKHoosier 6,855]

We suck, and our main rivals don't. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,312]

We need more dogs!

Coach Fleek approves.


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[rcbowla 7,092]

Fire him.

Not sure if you're joking or not but I'm kind of there. Seen it in 2nd year of Archie and see the same in 2nd year of Woody. We're rutterless and it's better to cut ties sooner than later. I still say he'll get next year at least but if he's still going nowhere it can't go beyond that.

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[BtownStrength 1,234]

I suppose for most this is the anger stage before the apathy and then the eventual firing (may be more like retirement in Woodson's case). I am not completely without hope that we can succeed but it's hard to imagine. More and more I find myself not caring if I miss games...what decades of underachieving do to a mf. 

[BtownStrength 1,234]

Just now, rcs29 said:

Not sure if you're joking or not but I'm kind of there. Seen it in 2nd year of Archie and see the same in 2nd year of Woody. We're rutterless and it's better to cut ties sooner than later. I still say he'll get next year at least but if he's still going nowhere it can't go beyond that.

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Yeah we seem rudderless but I agree that in no way does he go this year. Archie got 4 years, being an IU alum I think we know Woodson will have a long leash. Hoping he can turn the losing  culture around. 

[rcbowla 7,092]

Yeah we seem rudderless but I agree that in no way does he go this year. Archie got 4 years, being an IU alum I think we know Woodson will have a long leash. Hoping he can turn the losing  culture around. 

Thanks for correct spelling of rudder lol.

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[Brass Cannon 24,720]

10 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Not sure if you're joking or not but I'm kind of there. Seen it in 2nd year of Archie and see the same in 2nd year of Woody. We're rutterless and it's better to cut ties sooner than later. I still say he'll get next year at least but if he's still going nowhere it can't go beyond that.

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Good teams don’t hold onto to coaches once it’s clear they won’t succeed. The giving coaches years to drag the program further into the depths is why we are here 

 

Can anybody honestly see a vision where are improved next year.  If JHS has a brain he’s gone. Xavier is gone. Race is gone. Trayce is gone.  

[Hoosierfan2017 21,328]

The Woodson era will be the era where apathy sets in with a large portion of the fan base, imo. It’s basically where I am at this point. We needed a home run hire after we fired Archie and Mike Woodson was not that at all. It was Dolson waving the white flag in some ways. I hated the hire at the time and I still don’t like it. Woodson’s second season is looking a lot like Archie’s. At this point I don’t think IU will ever be elite again. It is what it is. Not all good things last forever. 

[RaceToTheTop 25,623]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

WE SUCK. 

 

I don't know what else to say anymore. 

Damn, I expected a full blown LCS rant.  You didn't even rant as much I would have.

[rcbowla 7,092]

I'm not even angry or sad. I just feel hopeless. I see no hope now, in immediate future or foreseeable future. Something I used to look forward to is now becoming something I almost want to avoid. How long can someone kick you in the nuts before you just stop going near them?

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