(2024) - PG Boogie Fland to Kentucky

[realTomCrean 1,503]

Thanks to IUBB staff and Transfer Portal losing on a great player like this stings less for a common fan like myself. Look at the talent they've accumulated while playing with one arm behind their back for the last 2 years + with relationships being non-existent when they first came in. I'm sure Boogie will be great in CBB and hopefully for that young man he will go onto the NBA and make himself and his family generational wealth. Indiana will be fine, wait until the Spring - we have several highly talented players tentatively coming back for next year and a heck of a recruit in Mcneeley coming in. Being in the top 3 for such a high-profile player spells good things for future Indiana recruits as the staff is obviously selling a good pitch to be at Indiana. We also discount the prowess nationally of Cupps in some circles, as a sophomore who knows what he is or is not capable of, but I do remember being ecstatic when he committed. Cupps, Banks, Galloway (?), Reneau (?), Gunn, Mcneeley, Newton, Sparks - That's more talent than every single Archie IU team + Woodson/Staff can flat out coach basketball. 

What makes this hurt for me was seeing so many guys who I know have some sort of connection to the program saying it was a done deal days ago and mentally preparing for it to be reality. I don't blame those who tip off with information they receive, nor do I challenge that they're blowing smoke for internet attention, teenagers are teenagers, and a ton of $/benefits get thrown their way meaning there is no way to know for a guarantee until they commit. 

The last thing is remember that Woodson said that he wanted to get old and stay old several years back. Of course you need one and done players but I agree with him that you need some 22-23yr old players playing significant minutes to compete at the highest levels. This could be a blessing in disguise, all about the framework of your mind. Hope everyone has a GREAT Friday and for those of you attending HH I hope you have a great time! Best wishes, GO HOOSIERS

[ap2345 7,338]

I’ll say this to about Cal. He is in desperation mode so who knows what he sold Boogie on in this recruitment. 

[Chris007 43,480]

2 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

If that’s true, it doesn’t really seem fair for the kid who only gets to experience the big surprise once in his lifetime. Seems to really defeat the purpose of keeping things close to the vest unless they actually don’t even care.  But then why hold a press conference, and not just release it to social media. Seems kind of strange.

I think that's why you see more of the Tipton edits on social media and not as many press conferences anymore. 

[Chris007 43,480]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They virtually whiffed on all the '23s.  They Put together a very good portal class and we enter the season anywhere from preaseason 30-40.

We ultimately need growth out of our existing players the most, but if we want to be viewed as a powerhouse (and we should) we have to win the offseasons too.  Gotta be a perennial top 25 team at worst if we are gonna act like a blueblood.  

24 had so much promise with Bidunga, Harper, Mustaf, Fland, Newell,  Betsey, Swartz, etc.  I mostly wanted Bidunga.  I really like Queen, but I don't think we get Queen.    But if we do, that's still a major coup.  McNeeley was number 2 on my list behind Bidunga but McNeeley is a huge get.  

I only really want 3 freshman anyway because starting 4 or 5 freshman doesn't win championships these days.  

So now we have to see how good Gunn, Cupp, Banks and company play and aim for a huge PortalSzn.  

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

[realTomCrean 1,503]

3 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

I’ll say this to about Cal. He is in desperation mode so who knows what he sold Boogie on in this recruitment. 

Agree his seat is getting warmer. This year is sort-of make or break for him from the outside POV. 

[realTomCrean 1,503]

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[Hornsby 1,651]

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

Rabjohns was bragging about how we were listed with more top 50 player then ever a few months ago. As I said at the time it means nothing if you don't get them. And we only got one. For some reason we cannot seem to close the deal in the fall.

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[Banksyrules 4,463]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Something about this recruitment hurts me a little more than others. I guess because he seemed like such a good fit. I would say well the sun is still going to come up but it's cloudy out. I'm glad Queen isn't deciding for a little bit, this recruitment seems to take the wind out of us. Need a TV timeout to regroup. 

I hurt for the kid. I think he seems like a nice kid and wants to do what’s best. Cal is a scumbag and you know he’s not going to get the best coaching. This is Brooks 2.0. 

[Hornsby 1,651]

I’ll say this to about Cal. He is in desperation mode so who knows what he sold Boogie on in this recruitment. 

He is 57-36 his last three seasons so maybe if he has a bad year he gets canned. Wh knows

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[bigrod 2,848]

Lots of doom and gloom here today. We just have to hope that Cupps gets some good experience this year and is ready to start next year. I think (hope) he is going to surprise a lot of people. We are still tending in the right direction, and any reasonable person knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. I always felt like the third year for a new coach is a good tell for the future. Let's hope we keep building and maybe finish better than expectations. If that happens, a couple of these players get drafted, and maybe someone makes a nice jump, I think we're in good shape for the Spring.

[Uspshoosier 44,909]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

Staff had the option of making some of the other kids higher priorities but chose to go for the top end talent.  Seems like their gamble didn’t pay off.  That’s a whole  other argument on what the staff should have or could have done.    Can’t worry about that now they just have to deal with the hand dealt to them and continue to work.    They definitely are going to be able to offer someone a lot of PT at the lead guard position 

[ap2345 7,338]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

The only issue I’ve got is that sometimes “a bird in the hand is greater than 2 in the bush” and to me IU has passed over good players the last couple cycles that could’ve helped to program to focus on 1 or 2 guys and then missed. It’s not a recipe for success. To me get the guys that you can get and then swing for the fences. Don’t swing for the fence and then miss out all together. It’s a good thing they landed Liam but a one man class isn’t going to cut it with the roster overhaul IU might face next year. 

[Uspshoosier 44,909]

12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Rabjohns was bragging about how we were listed with more top 50 player then ever a few months ago. As I said at the time it means nothing if you don't get them. And we only got one. For some reason we cannot seem to close the deal in the fall.

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That’s partly self inflicted.  Probably also the first time in awhile that an IU staff openly moved on or prioritized higher ranked kids then some other top 50 kids they had a real good chance at landing if they would of went all in 

[Joe_hoopsier 971]

11 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I hurt for the kid. I think he seems like a nice kid and wants to do what’s best. Cal is a scumbag and you know he’s not going to get the best coaching. This is Brooks 2.0. 

This is just me, that 10 year old kid, holding out all hope for that pony to be under the Christmas tree. This scenario would cold karma..;

 

Boogie leaked some info to pUKe and only pUKe. Then "SOMEHOW" that info gets leaked all over the CBB world. Boogie see's this happen and has a WTF moment, you just stole my day that I have building to for years. FU, I'm a Hoosier.

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be a pony, not a snake. :)

 

[Hornsby 1,651]

Staff had the option of making some of the other kids higher priorities but chose to go for the top end talent.  Seems like their gamble didn’t pay off.  That’s a whole  other argument on what the staff should have or could have done.    Can’t worry about that now they just have to deal with the hand dealt to them and continue to work.    They definitely are going to be able to offer someone a lot of PT at the lead guard position 

High risk high reward strategy. Woodson is going to have to recruit his behind off this spring may need up to five guys.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,181]

Chris just say Trilly is wrong so I can sleep tonight 

If you can't sleep based on a kid not choosing IU, I'll pray for you

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[realTomCrean 1,503]

4 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

High risk high reward strategy. Woodson is going to have to recruit his behind off this spring may need up to five guys.

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That’s been his strength in his IU tenure. No doom and gloom here. 3* kids were passing on IU a few years ago under Archie 

[realTomCrean 1,503]

Just now, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

If you can't sleep based on a kid not choosing IU, I'll pray for you

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Oh my gosh it was a joke. Get on with yourself 

[Hornsby 1,651]

The only issue I’ve got is that sometimes “a bird in the hand is greater than 2 in the bush” and to me IU has passed over good players the last couple cycles that could’ve helped to program to focus on 1 or 2 guys and then missed. It’s not a recipe for success. To me get the guys that you can get and then swing for the fences. Don’t swing for the fence and then miss out all together. It’s a good thing they landed Liam but a one man class isn’t going to cut it with the roster overhaul IU might face next year. 

This strategy may work for elite programs but we currently are not elite. Now we scramble in the spring to fill a roster. Imo that is not a recipe for building long term success. They may need to rethink their recruiting strategy

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[ronzo4IU 104]

33 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think that's why you see more of the Tipton edits on social media and not as many press conferences anymore. 

Well, that would make more sense when you have all these social media glory hounds who can’t control themselves and steal the thunder away from a teenager.