2022-2023 IUBB Roster Projection

[HoosierFan1994]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Dennis is releasing his top 6 today. Hope we make it. I'm sorry but his recruitment has gone a little long for me. I know he's not likely to be a pro so he's trying to get the best NIL deal possible but come on man a top 6 in May.

TJD said in his own words if he's not a top 35 pick he's back. Not sure if he got an invite or not but it seems we would have heard by now. I'm guessing he's not in the top 50 so I would expect him to be back. I actually thought he would have announced that by now. 

A top 6?! I thought he already did all of that? My goodness...I get it somewhat lol but it's May. 

[Trish]

Kids want all the attention for as long as possible, can't blame them. Plus looking for best NIL deal, that has a factor.  NBA Draft is a factor too for those oversigned. 

 

 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

21 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

There are two things that Geronimo needs to do to be an effective option at the three:

1. Be a reliable three point shooter
2. Improve his defensive awareness

I didn't mention improving his handle... We will have two really good pick and roll guards (and maybe Gallo as a third). JG won't have the handle of TB, but he already has the handle of MK, and he does other things really well that MK and TB will never do as well. 

So his strengths in rim protection, keeping offensive possessions alive, switchability on defense (that's a big one) and finishing at the rim compensate for some weaknesses, but with Trayce never turning into an outside threat we will need JG, JHS, X, and Race to be respectable from outside -- not afraid to shoot when open and about 35% on open jumpers. That's not too much to expect; I think that JG's outside shot form translates well.

Defensive awareness? That will come from dedication to watching film and lots of minutes during cupcake season.

 

JG does not have the handle of Kopp, which is not a high bar. His handle last season was extremely shaky and I would be shocked to see him start on the wing any time soon until that's fixed.

[HoosierTrav]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Dennis is releasing his top 6 today. Hope we make it. I'm sorry but his recruitment has gone a little long for me. I know he's not likely to be a pro so he's trying to get the best NIL deal possible but come on man a top 6 in May.

TJD said in his own words if he's not a top 35 pick he's back. Not sure if he got an invite or not but it seems we would have heard by now. I'm guessing he's not in the top 50 so I would expect him to be back. I actually thought he would have announced that by now. 

Yeah… I’m not sure I care to have the kid anymore. 

[Honkyman]

Poor Dexter Dennis. He was already to go take an offer from IU but IU gave its last scholarship to Malik Reneau. Now he's stuck putting out his top 6 list in May.

[HoosierTrav]

1 minute ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

JG does not have the handle of Kopp, which is not a high bar. His handle last season was extremely shaky and I would be shocked to see him start on the wing any time soon until that's fixed.

I agree. I love JG. But I find it very hard to believe he’s going to make the transition to the 3. He doesn’t move very well with the ball in his hands at all. He’s an undersized 4 who can stretch the defense a bit. I’ll be shocked and more than happy to eat crow if he can effectively play the wing next year. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

2 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

I agree. I love JG. But I find it very hard to believe he’s going to make the transition to the 3. He doesn’t move very well with the ball in his hands at all. He’s an undersized 4 who can stretch the defense a bit. I’ll be shocked and more than happy to eat crow if he can effectively play the wing next year. 

If he's been here for two years already and the handle still looks like that, I'd say it's not going to get much better. He will still be an effective role player off the bench.

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

If he's been here for two years already and the handle still looks like that, I'd say it's not going to get much better. He will still be an effective role player off the bench.

Depends on what the staff was trying to develop in him these last two years I think. We needed him more at 4 last couple years 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Depends on what the staff was trying to develop in him these last two years I think. We needed him more at 4 last couple years 

Staff can only spend so much time with each player. Handle is a skill that needs 95%+ personal development time. Regardless of the staff's priorities he hasn't personally prioritized it which is significant if he thinks of himself as a wing player.

[eddy4iu]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Dennis is releasing his top 6 today. Hope we make it. I'm sorry but his recruitment has gone a little long for me. I know he's not likely to be a pro so he's trying to get the best NIL deal possible but come on man a top 6 in May.

TJD said in his own words if he's not a top 35 pick he's back. Not sure if he got an invite or not but it seems we would have heard by now. I'm guessing he's not in the top 50 so I would expect him to be back. I actually thought he would have announced that by now. 

I think given that between 60 - 70 players get combine invites that TJD will get one.  I think 69 players got invites last year.

Unfortunately that could extend the waiting time for his decision.

[Chris007]

Just now, eddy4iu said:

I think given that between 60 - 70 players get combine invites that TJD will get one.  I think 69 players got invites last year.

Unfortunately that could extend the waiting time for his decision.

I believe you are correct but don't you think he's in the 50-70 range either way. It might make take him a little longer to come to the conclusion but he should be coming back. 

[HoosierHoopster]

^^ I tend to think he's coming back to grow his game to climb into the first round, and the NIL money changes the equation, but of course he has several options outside the NBA and/or G League where he can make real money as a pro, practice and play against pros, and/or go undrafted and make an NBA team. Can't really call it at this point imo.

[mike vannice]

FYI, there is more than one Wichita State transfer and I believe it is Ricky Council IV who is announcing his Top six today not Dexter Dennis. Still feel like Dexter would be a great addition if TJD decides to go pro.

[HoosierFan1994]

22 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

^^ I tend to think he's coming back to grow his game to climb into the first round, and the NIL money changes the equation, but of course he has several options outside the NBA and/or G League where he can make real money as a pro, practice and play against pros, and/or go undrafted and make an NBA team. Can't really call it at this point imo.

I think maybe getting a degree from IU could be up there too as to why I think he is coming back. 

[IUFAN1976]

26 minutes ago, mike vannice said:

FYI, there is more than one Wichita State transfer and I believe it is Ricky Council IV who is announcing his Top six today not Dexter Dennis. Still feel like Dexter would be a great addition if TJD decides to go pro.

I’ve been hearing rumblings that Dennis just might wind up in Bloomington no matter what.  I also heard a podcast today that also makes me feel that way too.  I don’t know what roster changes would be made, but TJD not coming back makes it easy but I think TJD will be back and don’t be surprised if Dennis is on our roster as well

[jbeaman9]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I’ve been hearing rumblings that Dennis just might wind up in Bloomington no matter what.  I also heard a podcast today that also makes me feel that way too.  I don’t know what roster changes would be made, but TJD not coming back makes it easy but I think TJD will be back and don’t be surprised if Dennis is on our roster as well

Which podcast? I enjoy listening to them and would love to listen to this.

[RaceToTheTop]

Teams will figure ways around scholarship limits.  Want another player?  Move a scholarship player off scholarship with the caveat of “finding” additional NIL money equal to their tuition.

[HoosierFan1994]

I really want to give Coach Woodson and his staff credit for keeping guys like Jordan Geronimo, Tamar Bates, and even Logan Duncomb. I feel like in some programs those 3 would've been gone. Geronimo probably would get more playing time at a Providence or a UConn. Bates didn't necessarily live up to his "ranking" as a freshman and could have left much like Collins at Michigan did. Same with Duncomb. Instead, it appears all 3 have bought into this program. I think Geronimo and Bates see a much bigger role next year. In 23-24 all 3 are going to be crucial for IU. I remember after the 12-13 season Abell and Creek left. I feel (and did at the time) had they stuck around for another year that IU would've been way better off. 

[CSP]

1 hour ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I think maybe getting a degree from IU could be up there too as to why I think he is coming back. 

That by no means needs to be finished now, though. 

[HoosierFan1994]

Just now, btownqb said:

That by no means needs to be finished now, though. 

Oh for sure. But I think it has an impact. Come back for one more year... Indiana SHOULD (key word here) be pretty good if he does come back. He would probably be a B1G POY favorite and a pre-season All American. Get some NIL money. AND finish up your degree. Potentially improve draft stock. If he doesn't improve his midrange game I unfortunately think he will be a borderline draft pick.