Game Thread: vs. Eastern Michigan 11/9 - 6 pm - BTN

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

But have we recruited anyone who can shoot is my question for the next few years?

That's the $60,000 dollar question (and I'm not the one to answer it, lol).  In the college BB thread there's a tweet abot Hunter, Durham, and Franklin and their unimpressive 3-pt shooting with their new teams - clearly CAM didn't bring in a array of sharp shooters. 

[DoctorP 1,135]

Water will find its level. I have confidence they will emphasize the importance of the right people getting these shots (Kopp, Stew, Rob, Bates?)…as I type that out it’s clear we continue to have less people I feel confident in shooting than most teams

To the St John’s point, KenPom has Miss Valley St as the dead last team out of 358 fwiw

Edited November 10, 2021 by DoctorP2

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,542]

Just now, DoctorP said:

Water will find its level. I have confidence they will emphasize the importance of the right people getting these shots (Kopp, Stew, Rob, Bates?)…

To the St John’s point, KenPom has Miss Valley St as the dead last team out of 358 fwiw

If we are going to shoot a lot of 3s which I’m perfectly good with, need to have 2 guys crash the boards or some strategy to rebound missed 3s better.  Our offensive rebounding was awful. 

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11 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I would have liked to see both as well. Trey plays better D than Leal so his playing time is going to be more, plus he's a better ball handler IMO but I think I would have liked both. Right now Woodson said we're going with a 9 person lineup and neither has made the top 9. But I think we see both Friday night. 

I understand all that. But man... We need shooters more than ball handlers and Galloway's shot is beyond broke. We already have Johnson on the court, Galloway isnt much different. 

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Takes after Dale.  Like father like son.

Exactly. He’s becoming his Dad or Shaq from the line.
Seems like early in his freshman year he was nothing but net from the line. Then, all the sudden…. POOF! No accuracy.
Hope he can get that back and FAST!


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13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

CBB as a hole last night shot the 3 at 31% I saw this morning. SO maybe it was first-game jitters for everyone. But I would have been thrilled for us to be at 31% last night.

It's also likely an affect from them moving the 3 point line back as well. It will take some games for players to get adjusted to shooting from that distance in game. 

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4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

If we are going to shoot a lot of 3s which I’m perfectly good with, need to have 2 guys crash the boards or some strategy to rebound missed 3s better.  Our offensive rebounding was awful. 

I didn’t see much to free up Kopp and Stewart for open catch and shoot threes. Those two should take 10 a game and really limit the amount coming from the others.

as you pointed out, nobody was even around or attempting to grab an offensive bird on the majority of shots. That’s not a great recipe for success

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17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But have we recruited anyone who can shoot is my question for the next few years?

Yeah one just signed his NLI today 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,626]

First game in front of fans in Assembly Hall since March 2020. Only Trayce, Race, and Rob are left from that team. Three of our starters are brand new. We looked like a team that hasn’t played much together. That’s to be expected with the number of new guys we’re trying to work in, plus everyone is new to a Mike Woodson team.

Frankly, I liked that we took 24 threes even though they didn’t go in. I thought it was really encouraging. We won’t shoot 16% every game. We only took 18 threes per game last year which was 301st in the country. We only took 24 or more 3s in a game last year three times. (And we won all three games). We also only did it three times the year before that.

You need to be able to jack up 3s in today’s college basketball. We just need to get the right guys taking them. Race probably shouldn’t be taking threes, and definitely shouldn’t be taking four of them in a game. Kopp and Stewart need to be taking more of our threes. Bates was injured so hopefully that explains his limited minutes yesterday. I’d like for him to get more time and more threes. 

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7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I understand all that. But man... We need shooters more than ball handlers and Galloway's shot is beyond broke. We already have Johnson on the court, Galloway isnt much different. 

Woody is more focused on defense right now and that's why Galloway is in the rotation. Lander and Leal are going to get opportunities to show they should get minutes as well. They just have to capitalize on those and not crap the bed. That 9 man rotation is likely to change several times throughout the season. 

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4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

It's also likely an affect from them moving the 3 point line back as well. It will take some games for players to get adjusted to shooting from that distance in game. 

That's a great point and one I forgot about.

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13 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I understand all that. But man... We need shooters more than ball handlers and Galloway's shot is beyond broke. We already have Johnson on the court, Galloway isnt much different. 

What makes you think Lander is a shooter? I saw plenty of air balls last year that would tell me he isn’t

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12 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

It's also likely an affect from them moving the 3 point line back as well. It will take some games for players to get adjusted to shooting from that distance in game. 

Pretty sure this is the third year with the line moved back. Doubt that has much to do with it 

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Mike Woodson stated he is using this game as a teachable moment.  Let’s see how we improve each game.  That is something we haven’t seen for quite some time with the previous coaching staff.  A trademark of a Knight coached team is their improvement throughout the season, I expect that will happen under Woodson.

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9 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

Pretty sure this is the third year with the line moved back. Doubt that has much to do with it 

Nope. They moved it back for a 2nd time entering this season. 

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On 11/8/2021 at 3:03 PM, DWB said:

OK, we'll obviously see. 

I will be more than happy to "eat my words" if I'm wrong, but I bet he gets 15-18+ points against us.

 

On 11/8/2021 at 3:08 PM, Stuhoo said:

If he gets 17 points on 6-21 shooting he will not have created his own shot well. (now watch him go all IUFW and hit 6-9 threes -- no wait, if he gets close to that Woody will put Fife in if he has to.). 

 

Noah Farrakhan ended up with 18 points on 5-21 shooting. (3-7 from 3pt.)

 

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3 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Mike Woodson stated he is using this game as a teachable moment.  Let’s see how we improve each game.  That is something we haven’t seen for quite some time with the previous coaching staff.  A trademark of a Knight coached team is their improvement throughout the season, I expect that will happen under Woodson.

I got a kick out of Coach Woodson sitting and showing little emotion.  No doubt that 1st game thoughts were on his mind.  That and maybe how to differentiate his tenure from that of others at IU.  And he probably wanted to keep somewhat detached and objective to learn this new team. 

As an aside, he may have been channeling the Wizard of Westwood.  Envision Woodson = Wooden!

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6 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

I got a kick out of Coach Woodson sitting and showing little emotion.  No doubt that 1st game thoughts were on his mind.  That and maybe how to differentiate his tenure from that of others at IU.  And he probably wanted to keep somewhat detached and objective to learn this new team. 

As an aside, he may have been channeling the Wizard of Westwood.  Envision Woodson = Wooden!

I liked how he called timeouts a couple of times to chew on some behinds. 

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12 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Nope. They moved it back for a 2nd time entering this season. 

I am pretty sure it was just the women's. they moved it back to international to match the men's. that is why there is now only 1 line on the court. 

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9 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

I got a kick out of Coach Woodson sitting and showing little emotion.  No doubt that 1st game thoughts were on his mind.  That and maybe how to differentiate his tenure from that of others at IU.  And he probably wanted to keep somewhat detached and objective to learn this new team. 

As an aside, he may have been channeling the Wizard of Westwood.  Envision Woodson = Wooden!

That will continue too!