(2021) SG Tamar Bates to INDIANA

[Stuhoo 80,430]

2 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Wow.
We are already downplaying his skills.
You forgot Bird, Kareem, Magic and Kobe. Tough crowd.

And Harrison Niego.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,514]

Tyler Tachman -

Just spoke with Tamar Bates. He said his relationship with Mike Woodson was big in his decision to commit to IU: “I knew him while he was in the league coaching the Knicks and winning championships... It was crazy seeing him saying so many good things about me.”

Bates said being overlooked has motivated him: “That’s part of the reason that I play as hard as I do... I like it that way. When I perform the way that I do, as a result of the work that I put in, it’s not a surprise to me.”

I asked Tamar about his nickname “scoop.” He said his mom gave it to him when he was little because he ate a lot, namely Fig Newtons. One of his mom’s favorite DJ’s was Fatman Scoop. “As I got older, they took off the ‘Fatman’ and just called me ‘scoop’”.

[Hoosierfan1901 6,217]

Heard he shoots around 44% from the 3 and around 88% from the line 

[JustWinWoody 3,385]

This kid reminds me of Matt Coleman III from Texas.  

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

Pretty awesome to target a kid and just go get him.

[Kentuckysucks 2,231]

9 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Tyler Tachman -

Just spoke with Tamar Bates. He said his relationship with Mike Woodson was big in his decision to commit to IU: “I knew him while he was in the league coaching the Knicks and winning championships... It was crazy seeing him saying so many good things about me.”

Bates said being overlooked has motivated him: “That’s part of the reason that I play as hard as I do... I like it that way. When I perform the way that I do, as a result of the work that I put in, it’s not a surprise to me.”

I asked Tamar about his nickname “scoop.” He said his mom gave it to him when he was little because he ate a lot, namely Fig Newtons. One of his mom’s favorite DJ’s was Fatman Scoop. “As I got older, they took off the ‘Fatman’ and just called me ‘scoop’”.

Winning championships?

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I was one that was skeptical of whether Woodson would be able to recruit at the level necessary to win in the B1G. And to me, just convincing guys to stay, or getting a player in Johnson who already had a long-time relationship with Kenya, while nice, wasn't super convincing. It's different to come in and convince a kid with whom your staff and school doesn't already have a strong relationship.

Bates is a game changer in that regard. Not only is he just the type of recruit that we should be focused on rating-wise, but his recruitment was wide open. To seal the deal with him so quickly is very impressive. Definitely bodes well for the future.

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Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

Winning championships?

He won one with the Pistons as an assistant. 

[DChoosier 8,312]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And Harrison Niego.

Probably my favorite Hoosier of all-time.

[Josh 12,621]

37 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 

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Haha we're back to the "scholarships will work themselves out" phase that so many fans hated under Crean

[IUCrazy2 2,364]

35 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

And yet he was nothing more than a bit player his first 2 seasons and then just a complementary one as a Jr and Sr.

Point is there are only 200 player minutes per game and it isn't a shame that 2 moderately recruited guys, as Fr and So,  are 3rd or 4th off bench minutes guys. Some of my favorite Hoosiers all time were that early.

I agree with Leal and Galloway probably needing to wait and develop, but using Fife as an example of a guy who was rated lower and needed to develop did not fit IMO.

Fife was a big time recruit when he got here.  Now if you wanted to compare expectations to Greshman results, Lander would be a better comparison to Fife IMO.

[HoosierFan1994 4,738]

Wow! I did not expect this. Massive get for Woodson and the staff. I would not fall out of my chair if this kid starts next year. He will see quality minutes right away. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,514]

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

Haha we're back to the "scholarships will work themselves out" phase that so many fans hated under Crean

Not defending Crean at all, but with NCAA opening up one-time immediate eligibility transfers, I would expect to see 1 or 2 enter the portal annually.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,227]

From reading Tamar's comments, it sounds like Coach Woodson is really selling his up tempo, NBA style offense. I really hope he's able to get it going in the Big 10. That's the kind of offense that talented kids want to play for. They want to get up and down the floor and take a lot of threes. Archie's offense was so boring. I don't blame any recruits, especially guards, for watching us play and not wanting to come here. I can't wait to see what Woody's offense looks like, and I can't wait for recruits to get to see it too. 

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

From reading Tamar's comments, it sounds like Coach Woodson is really selling his up tempo, NBA style offense. I really hope he's able to get it going in the Big 10. That's the kind of offense that talented kids want to play for. They want to get up and down the floor and take a lot of threes. Archie's offense was so boring. I don't blame any recruits, especially guards, for watching us play and not wanting to come here. I can't wait to see what Woody's offense looks like, and I can't wait for recruits to get to see it too. 

He will have to be on the refs constantly to make sure they are not allowing tackle hoops like they usually do.

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27 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Wow.
We are already downplaying his skills.
You forgot Bird, Kareem, Magic and Kobe. Tough crowd.

It's called "managing expectations." For example, while I think he should average 50 ppg I will expect only 25 ppg.

[Josh 12,621]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Not defending Crean at all, but with NCAA opening up one-time immediate eligibility transfers, I would expect to see 1 or 2 enter the portal annually.

For the record, I never minded it.  The players didn't seem to, so why would I?  

Has there been any talk of increasing the scholarship number limit since the players have been given an extra year?

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9 minutes ago, Josh said:

Haha we're back to the "scholarships will work themselves out" phase that so many fans hated under Crean

TJD will almost certainly go pro. if he doesn't progress enough to do that for whatever reason, I think he would transfer. So there is Gunn's scholarship available without a transfer if they fill the last spot with a multi-year player.

[Kentuckysucks 2,231]

Apparently TJD feels like we ain't done yet.

[Stuhoo 80,430]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

Apparently TJD feels like we ain't done yet.

 

He seems to know about these things!

Also, Woody said he'd be getting one more big. So, it is extremely likely that we will be getting one more big.