General Coach Candidate News

[Silat Player]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

that was 15+ years ago and if we're worried about that.... TJ O has some recent season we should REALLY worry about. 

Sure, it was a while ago, but it was his last job and it was all 4 years. 

[CSP]

Just now, Silat Player said:

Sure, it was a while ago, but it was his last job and it was all 4 years. 

15+ years ago, yes. I think McDermott's style matches what we want in a basketball coach. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

30 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Tbf, we just beat Washington who is basically Seton Hall and they just lost at Xavier by 20.  
 

Creighton is 39 in NET and 5-6 in Q1 wins. 
 

He’s a better coach than Woodson but the seasons this year aren’t as far apart as we’d want to really get the fanbase behind a hire like that. 

But to me it’s about Mcdermotts X’s and O’s plus in game adjustments. It’s ALOT easier to recruit at IU especially with NIL compared to Creighton. So my question is how good is McDermott at those things?

[jimsorgi]

2 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Thats true. But, what happened at Iowa State? McDermott was 59-68 there. If anything, I would worry about that...

He took over a bad program and struggled to bring enough talent to improve more quickly. His last year he did make a step in the right direction. But Iowa State was a tough place to bring in talent until Hoiberg started bringing in transfers. 

McDermott has also changed his offense quite a bit, I think. 

[Motley's]

26 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

So our new coach probably doesn’t want anyone back on our current team correct? Then again Mgbako’s Reneau and Rice’s portal reel from last night probably lost them each 50k-100k

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

[Pagoda]

Shows you how much our donors know about basketball.  Good grief.

They backed Woody and Woody messed up the roster.  New coach needs control over the roster so they can fix it.

[Chris007]

13 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

So people are feeling that McDermott is positioned as the clubhouse favorite? Or am I way off base here ? 

I think he's misdirection IMO just for the timing of his name coming up. If things fall apart with a couple of others I think he would be a solid get. 

[MrBBall]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

Any donor that wishes to have Carlyle back and his 28% shooting is nuts 

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

@Chris007 if we lose Saturday will the rumor mill be churning 15+ pages a hour? I imagine if we lose Saturday that Dolson will start going to off-season mode. I think he realizes if we lose we would probably need 3 wins in the big 10 tourney and would probably like to use that first week especially if we aren’t playing in the tourney to get everything in place.

I'm really surprised we haven't heard more by now to be honest, but that just means Dolson is running a really good search. Yes if we lose Saturday watch out. 

[iu2win]

How many superstar Creighton players can the average IU fan name?   It is interesting to at least consider the possibility McDermott could upgrade his tournament success with the players he could get at IU.  If he simply manages to regain the advantage IU once had with top rated in-state recruits I would think the overall talent level would exceed what he generally has at Creighton.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

Carlyle seems to be coming into his own, with a new coach Rice could be good, I was originally on the I hope MR leaves but I’ve changed my tune and think in a one big system he is really good, MM I want to know if his issues are with the coaching staff or if he is just lazy and uncoachsble. I’d possibly be interested in Tucker coming back but same questions as MM

[Silat Player]

8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

15+ years ago, yes. I think McDermott's style matches what we want in a basketball coach. 

Sure, and maybe he would kill it at IU. Who knows? 

I think a major draw of Cig was the fact that he won everywhere he had been. That made him as much of a "sure thing" as Dolson could have hired. He was actually probably a better choice than many more established higher-profile coaches, just for that reason. 

McDermott is a very good coach. But, if I'm picking the next coach, I want to know why those 4 years at Iowa State went so poorly. You can't just ignore a bad part of someone's resume. Was it the competition or style of play? Did his coaching style change? Did the resources at his place of employment improve? What happened? 

Those questions would need to be asked...

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Shows you how much our donors know about basketball.  Good grief.

what does?

[Hippopotamo]

We have to remember that IU basketball and IU football are vastly different programs. With football you can easily hire someone like Cignetti, but trying to replicate that on the basketball side might not be the right move. 

[Silat Player]

4 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Any donor that wishes to have Carlyle back and his 28% shooting is nuts 

He really is such a massively inefficient player. He would need to be willing to be nothing but a role player off the bench. 

And to take a sizeable pay cut.

[moyemayhem]

I'm not sure why McDermott is viewed as low ceiling.  He's 8-4 in the tournament the last 4 years with 2 sweet sixteens and an elite eight.  He's finished top 3 in the Big East (a P5 conference) in 8 of the last 9 years, and the one miss was a 4th place finish.  How many candidates have a better recent history than him?  Why can't he improve on those stellar results with IU's resources and better players?

[JaybobHoosier]

4 minutes ago, iu2win said:

How many superstar Creighton players can the average IU fan name?   It is interesting to at least consider the possibility McDermott could upgrade his tournament success with the players he could get at IU.  If he simply manages to regain the advantage IU once had with top rated in-state recruits I would think the overall talent level would exceed what he generally has at Creighton.

This is a great question and I think increased talent could be huge. Not saying a guarantee, but could be huge. Think about this past year’s IU football team. Really good and got the most out of what they could, but could tell a difference once playing top tier teams. 
 

If it is McDermott and with an increase in talent, you never know what could happen.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

MM can’t guard a cone, I will not be sad when he leaves

[Silat Player]

10 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

He took over a bad program and struggled to bring enough talent to improve more quickly. His last year he did make a step in the right direction. But Iowa State was a tough place to bring in talent until Hoiberg started bringing in transfers. 

McDermott has also changed his offense quite a bit, I think. 

He went 4-12 each year in the Big 12 his last 3 years there. It wasn't getting better. 

[TadQueasy]

Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

MM can’t guard a cone, I will not be sad when he leaves

And he would rather take a contested 3 pt shot rather than make the easy pass for an open look.