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[WayneFleekHoosier 46,954]

It seems most likely to me that the person who should be embarrassed is the guy at Rivals who printed the rumor, not IU

Yes, to a degree he/they should. Also, they likely aren’t fabricating this story out of thin air. They are trying to report facts as they find them. That’s on IU to tidy things up.

Do you believe the story is true?


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[TadQueasy 555]

1 minute ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Hell, they should make me coach

[DLG3 1,034]

Chris, I have to ask...do you think Dolson has totally moved on from Stevens, or is he gonna make another push? Sure seems like he probably got a firm no.


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[TheWatShot 13,346]

6 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We are a program in the toilet and somehow trending further downward, somehow. We just took one of the games consensus great young coaches, chewed him up, and spit him out. If we were misled into making a coaching change by Stevens, it’s a fatal blow. Dolson would be working from square one with no hot leads. Don’t forget the donors who ponied up the dough to make the transition. This is true and Dolson and the athletic Dept just likely burned up every dime of political capital they had. Just imagine for one second that you were given assurances that a certain guy was coming, if you could meet certain demands, you commit to potentially 8 figures of your money towards said guy, and the athletic Dept delivers Dane ******* Fife...... I’d never take another phone call. Neither would you. 

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,121]

What this tells me is that options 1 thru 5 all said 'No' (Stevens, Donovan, Bennett, Beard, Few) 

I was rooting for Matta, because I assumed the options above would say NO, Matta's impeccable record speaks for itself.

Where we go now.......Altman, Beilein, Musselman, Moser?

Whose options? BtownBanners or Dolson? You have no idea what his options are.

 

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,121]

Whew....someone just jumped the gun then on that rumor....

As were the reactions

 

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[HoosierTrav 7,619]

Anoter thing that I’m probably looking into too much but notable. The athletic Dept was lightning quick to dispel the Matta rumors but did not and have yet to do the same regarding ANY of the Stevens rumors. Worrisome. 

[Chris007 42,375]

2 minutes ago, DLG3 said:

Chris, I have to ask...do you think Dolson has totally moved on from Stevens, or is he gonna make another push? Sure seems like he probably got a firm no.


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My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

[HoosierTrav 7,619]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

We can all look back into the past from the present and be right. But at the time Archie was hired he was considered a rising star by nearly everyone who is anyone. You can deny that all you want. 

[coonhounds 8,694]

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

His brother is clearly a cheat in the biggest way. Also ncaa results wise would be murdered by our fan base including me. He has bought enough talent he should have delivered by now.

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[lillurk 3,693]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yes, to a degree he/they should. Also, they likely aren’t fabricating this story out of thin air. They are trying to report facts as they find them. That’s on IU to tidy things up.

Do you believe the story is true?


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I believe he posted it in good faith but might not have been following journalistic best practices (two or more sources). And/or his source(s) are bad.

I don’t believe it’s true. It sure seems like Dolson or intermediaries have talked to lots of folks, more folks than I would imagine are actually on his shortlist. Biding time until Beard and later Muss can talk, I’d guess.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,121]

Never. Trust. Sources.
If that's not apparent at this point, I don't know what to say. People are flinging crap against the wall just to see what sticks. Bottom line is this. Only 2 people know for sure what's going down, and that's Scott Dolson, and the coach he's in negotiations with. Period. This has passed the point of speculation and crossed into utter stupidity. 

This

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[ap2345 7,099]

According to Snow IU has not contacted Beard or his representation about the job.

[Artie86 1,674]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

I feel the same way...

[coonhounds 8,694]

My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

Still holding out hope in my camp.

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[TadQueasy 555]

Just now, ap2345 said:

According to Snow IU has not contacted Beard or his representation about the job.

who is snow?

[IUwins0708 2,666]

Can someone get me another beer? Miller High Life preferably 

[BottomLine 677]

Looks to me like everyone needs to take a chill pill.  IU is going to get a good coach.  Will it be the right coach?  Guys hires like this don't come with guarantees.  What is it they say about investing - past performance doesn't necessarily mean future success or something like this.  We don't know who is being interviews.  We don't know what questions are being asked.  We don't know what the potential coach is answering.  Only the AD and whoever he chooses to involve in the process know those things.  We, as fans, are well over our pay grade if we are trying to make those decisions for the program - based on what?  This is going to be a chemistry hire, at least I hope.  Lack of experience can be overcome.  Look at Howard at Michigan, A GREAT HIRE.  Sometimes it takes a coach time to get his act together.  Look at Poser at Loyola.  He has the chemistry going there but will it translate to elsewhere?  I don't know and you don't either.  Based on his record Archie looked like a good hire.  He wasn't.  As I said there are plenty of good coaches out there that know the Xs and Os but do they fit the IU culture?  Do they have the thick skin and confidence that will allow them the resist the unique pressure at IU?  sit tight folks this is going to work out.  It is just going to take some time.

Last thought on Brad Stevens.  IF he agreed to come before Archie was fired and then changed his mind, I think he blew any chance to ever get the IU job.  Relationships are built on trust and that is gone.  IF the rumors are true.

I now return you to the debate over the arrival of our next savior.

[Uspshoosier 44,374]

23 minutes ago, Josh said:

Didn't they try to get Calipari too?

I think so.  Ended up getting Cal a raise 

[kottke 766]

2 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

According to Snow IU has not contacted Beard or his representation about the job.

He also said we weren’t firing Archie like the day before we did.