General Coach Candidate News

[cleeter 3,020]

That's not how it works.  These IU donors in most cases earned their money and are smart.  They know about risk, sure things, etc.  I am sure the discussion included the comment "Ok Scott, you say you got Stevens, but what if you don't?  What if he's playing you?  What's plan B?"   

Totally agree. Or a situation saying “I WILL give you “X” amount of dollars if it’s Brad Stevens”. That would still be a donor funding the new hire, but the exchange of funds is dependent on the agreement. It’s not like the donor walked in with ten million in a duffel bag and said bye.


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[coonhounds 10,528]

I'm way behind but here you are looking at from another very logical point of view and it appears nobody noticed

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Yes I read the wide of the mark comment interesting. Didn't totally shoot it down. Could have said false or totally inaccurate imo

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[DChoosier 9,571]

1 hour ago, HoosierTrav said:

We just took one of the games consensus great young coaches, chewed him up, and spit him out. 

Ha.
“We” did not chew up Archie and spit him out. He made well over 20mm and delivered a disappointing, historically terrible run. A number of coaches hired when he was, and after, have done better, he never brought his alleged tough minded “brand” to the program, recruiting stalled, his offense was horrific, he had glaring needs but left scholarships open, his players seemingly had little affinity for him, the only players that made it to the tourney did it by transferring to other schools, the year 4 issues were mostly the same as the year 1 issues and he began his tenure by losing at home to Indiana State and ended it by going scoreless for the last 10 minutes of his tenure....a fitting finish. We fired Davis and Crean and they were both much, much more successful than Archie. 

 

[HomeBrew911 23]

Never really been a message board kind of guy and only started following a few months ago. This is my first time posting on any so bear with me. First, I believe yesterday was the anniversary of one of my top five Hoosier basketball moments, A.J. Moye and the Boozer block. I watch a replay of that game every March. As far as a new coach, my completely uneducated opinion is that it comes down to two coaches that being Drew or Musselman. The program needs a jolt of energy and I think these two can provide that. Drew can obviously recruit and both run systems that have energy. You're not recruiting kids to come play defense. You sell them on an uptempo offense and then challenge them to pride themselves on playing lockdown defense. I think both can do this. I wasn't really sold on Musselman at all until after their last game and it was two things. The first was him jumping on the table after the win, that is exactly what this program needs, someone who brings energy and passion. The second was an interview I read about Justin Smith. I saw him as a guy with limitless potential who was just lazy and lacked motivation. Now it seems like he was just unhappy playing in a system that was basically boring and uninspiring. 

[IUHAHN81 3,303]

Listens gents, make sure u hit us with them 12:30 am Lander style tweets tonight. Lovin' the depths of our coaching search so far.  Looking forward to Digger Phelps being thrown into the mix! 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,666]

He’s a young man, really. What 54? Coaching has been tough on him. He looks at least 10 years older in his face and legs. I wish him the best with his health, but even I knew we shouldn’t be targeting him. His quotes when he departed Ohio State speak volumes. He and JB should continue their passion in basketball, just not as a head coach of a major University.
 
 
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I'm 55. If he looks 10 years older, I look twice as old as I am.

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[Stuhoo 88,536]

Welcome HomeBrew911!

[RaceToTheTop 30,587]

Tomorrow I go on a vacation to Kentucky for some family time and golfing with my son and father-in-law.  Pains me to not be able to wear my IU gear.  Not worth the grief.

[Hoosier1984 1,658]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Tomorrow I go on a vacation to Kentucky for some family time and golfing with my son and father-in-law.  Pains me to not be able to wear my IU gear.  Not worth the grief.

You probably could as long as it just says Indiana....they can’t read.

[hoosierbannerd 3,437]

5 minutes ago, HomeBrew911 said:

Never really been a message board kind of guy and only started following a few months ago. This is my first time posting on any so bear with me. First, I believe yesterday was the anniversary of one of my top five Hoosier basketball moments, A.J. Moye and the Boozer block. I watch a replay of that game every March. As far as a new coach, my completely uneducated opinion is that it comes down to two coaches that being Drew or Musselman. The program needs a jolt of energy and I think these two can provide that. Drew can obviously recruit and both run systems that have energy. You're not recruiting kids to come play defense. You sell them on an uptempo offense and then challenge them to pride themselves on playing lockdown defense. I think both can do this. I wasn't really sold on Musselman at all until after their last game and it was two things. The first was him jumping on the table after the win, that is exactly what this program needs, someone who brings energy and passion. The second was an interview I read about Justin Smith. I saw him as a guy with limitless potential who was just lazy and lacked motivation. Now it seems like he was just unhappy playing in a system that was basically boring and uninspiring. 

Great 1st post!

[coonhounds 10,528]

Tomorrow I go on a vacation to Kentucky for some family time and golfing with my son and father-in-law.  Pains me to not be able to wear my IU gear.  Not worth the grief.

Wear the damn gear who cares. I where mine to work 5 days a week. Only time I care is when my daughter asked me why I like them if they lose all the time. I could only say it wasn't always this way and hopefully won't be for long. Also told her winning isn't the only reason to root for a team!

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,666]

I thought true at time

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Why? Because someone tweeted it?

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[kottke 919]

4 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Tomorrow I go on a vacation to Kentucky for some family time and golfing with my son and father-in-law.  Pains me to not be able to wear my IU gear.  Not worth the grief.

I lived in Lexington for Crean’s last year and Archie’s first two. It was quite miserable.

[RaceToTheTop 30,587]

FWIW, I think guys who were probably in the know before -- like chris -- are pretty gun shy about sharing any information.  Also think the sources they had are a little gun shy to share with them what they know.  I believe the intel was good but it didn't work out with Stevens.

I'm sure guys like Chris and sources he has are going to be playing it pretty close to the vest right now....which is going to lead to a little of the 'silly season' of rumors....guys coming out of the woodwork with no real information or solid sources.

But I don't blame those who got burnt.  Seems like they too tons of crap for doing nothing more than providing what they knew.  My guess is Chris knows more than he is willing to let on -- and I don't blame him one bit.  It's not going to change the hire and in the end, it's probably just going to mean we might know who it is a couple of days later than we would have otherwise.

[coonhounds 10,528]

Why? Because someone tweeted it?

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Yes looked real on here for a moment sorry

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[AZ Hoosier 10,705]

?

Clearly not a Hoosiers fan...

[RaceToTheTop 30,587]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said:

You probably could as long as it just says Indiana....they can’t read.

Yeah, but I'll be around the 1%ers of Kentucky -- the ones that own golf clubs -- so they could probably sound the words out.

[HinnyHoosier 6,551]

Personally, I have my group of preferred candidates and that’s where I stopped. Guys who would get this program back to consistent winning. There isn’t just one. I haven’t ranked them in my mind, because as soon as they don’t hire my #1 there will be an element of disappointment. And I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of disappointment associated with IU basketball. I trust Dolson & Co to make a solid hire. We obviously know what he wants for this program, so I’m just going to let him do his work and quit worrying so much. He’s vetting and talking to these guys, not me. He knows more about how they operate and what will fit the program.

Big picture: We moved on from Archie Miller. The next chapter starts regardless of the hire, so be on board for a new start.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,666]

Been off the thread since about 3.  Does this sum up the last few hours?
unsubstantiated rumors that Matta agreed to a deal with Indiana and then failed a physical.  Quickly shot down by the most reliable local reporters from our athletic department as untrue.  No one actually has any reliable information that IU talked to Matta, much less went into contract talks or asked him to take alleged physical.  Reaction even after this non proof assumes that all the rumors were true and that apparently he was the only guy we have talked and that we are an embarrassment.  Then some Indiana sports guy with a twitter following smaller than my 12 year old nephew says it will be Belein, then intimates it will be someone from a multitude of former Indians guys.
do I have it summed up?

Exactly correct

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[RaceToTheTop 30,587]

5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Wear the damn gear who cares. I where mine to work 5 days a week. Only time I care is when my daughter asked me why I like them if they lose all the time. I could only say it wasn't always this way and hopefully won't be for long. Also told her winning isn't the only reason to root for a team!

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The not wearing the gear was in jest.  I'm going to either be golfing (collar required at the course and I don't have any IU collared gear, all t-shirts and hoodies) or in the cottage we rented, so it's a moot point anyway.