General Coach Candidate News

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m sure he is, but this is probably the most important hire in post-Knight IU basketball history. IU has a golden opportunity to make a splash given NIL. The pressure to succeed immediately will be immense. Now isn’t the time to take a risk on a D2 coach with one season of D1 basketball under his belt. 

Some are willing to take a risk on a guy who could turn out to be the next Billy G. That’s not worth the risk either.  Tons of other coaches like Byington, Wade, etc. that could kill it here also.  

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12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Dude has one year of division one experience but let's hand the reins over to him because he won in division two. I'd rather hire bronwell and I think bronwell would be average at best.

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Saying that 'he won in division two' is vastly underselling what he did there.

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18 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

McCollum would be such a gut punch. Let’s have a guy with no experience run a multi million dollar corporation. This would be such a McRobbie type hire. Thankfully, I believe we have an admin that values sports now

Stevens went from Butler to the Celtics. That worked out ok. 

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2 hours ago, rcbowla said:

Here's an exercise I think I'm going to try to do:

Side by side comparison of 2 similar (resume wise) candidates. Just not sure what the best criteria to use are. Anyhow here are some of my combos and feel free to add on.

Stevens-Donovan

Drew-Few

McCollum-Schertz

Woodson-Turgeon (this one is a joke)

Byington-Devries

Gates-Collins 

McCasland-Otzelberger

 

Awesome exercise!

Huss-Olen

and much to the chagrin of @Uspshoosier

Beard-Wade

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9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Because Todd Golden is currently very well compensated at a better program in a better conference.

Could he use an IU offer to get a raise and extension? Sure! Otherwise, why would he leave UF for IU?

 

Because……… ;) 

 

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It’s not.  I know for a fact that he has talked with IU. He is a great person and great basketball coach.  Like others have said, concern would be recruiting at this level.  

Lol have you met him before? Are you related? How do you know he is a great person.

 

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2 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

Stevens went from Butler to the Celtics. That worked out ok. 

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense. 

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16 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Scott Dolson is. not. going. to. hire. a. coach. who. has. coached. only. 30. D1. Basketball. games. D2 wonder boy will not be the next HC at IU its a flat non-starter for me . 

One good season in the Mo valley means NOTHING. Schertz won 30 games last year and is middle of the pack at St Louis this year. 

Millions of dollars in NIL to manage, being able to recruit the portal/ Indiana HS/ National prep schools all stuff McCollum has 0 experience with. 

 I refuse to believe that McCollum is getting talked about for more than 5 secs. I guess since the search is going on as long as it is makes it unique, maybe you are trying to get your Moneys worth out of the search firm. 

Him and Brownell would be the ONLY two hires that would make seriously for the first time in life consider NOT watching / attending IU basketball games 

Further…besides all the other red flags of someone with no experience taking over a program such as IUBB is the likelihood that McCollum takes a significant step back next year…as he is losing the majority of his players. I’m curious to see how he navigates the portal building a new team. How will he rebuild? We have no idea because there is nothing to refer back to with McCollum…another reason why he doesn’t need to be coaching here. 

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I love the list @the_jackal put out.  IU would do well with most of those guys.

While I don't think it will be McCollum, I like the idea of a younger guy to hand to reigns to.  IF he has gifted with the X's and O's that many (seemingly smarter than me) basketball minds believe, I would be comfortable with him with the reigns, especially if we truly hire a GM type with high level experience to mentor/guide him.

Hoping for Brad, happy with most others

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense. 

My goodness…a Stevens comparison with McCollum…and people wonder why we’ve been irrelevant for so long 

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Saying that 'he won in division two' is vastly underselling what he did there.

If this is honestly the route dolson chooses to go nobody should complain if we are doing this again in four years. He has a choice to hire proven winners and if he doesn't this is all on him if it fails.

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2 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

Stevens went from Butler to the Celtics. That worked out ok. 

And that is part of the reason why he's considered in such high regard as a coach. People that jump to the next level (or more, as in this case) and succeed happen but they're a minority.

McCollum very well could succeed at IU. He also very well could fail. It's a gamble.

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

When McCollum goes to back to back D1 national title games that comparison will make sense. 

He won 4 D2 titles. Now he’s winning at D1. Stevens was successful at a small college and jumped all way to Celtics and was successful. It’s basketball not rocket science. And with NIL it’s even easier to get players now. All the guy has done is win wherever he’s been. There’s no data that says he wouldn’t adjust and be successful. 

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Further…besides all the other red flags of someone with no experience taking over a program such as IUBB is the likelihood that McCollum takes a significant step back next year…as he is losing the majority of his players. I’m curious to see how he navigates the portal building a new team. How will he rebuild? We have no idea because there is nothing to refer back to with McCollum…another reason why he doesn’t need to be coaching here. 

But he is a good person our resident expert says. Isn't that all that matters?

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what was the flight talk about earlier? 

Laurence Hanscom to Naples and Clark County to Naples around the same time? Is that what was posted?

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1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

But he is a good person our resident expert says. Isn't that all that matters?

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It’s partly this line of thinking which has made us suck for so long.

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1 minute ago, IUguy77 said:

He won 4 D2 titles. Now he’s winning at D1. Stevens was successful at a small college and jumped all way to Celtics and was successful. It’s basketball not rocket science. And with NIL it’s even easier to get players now. All the guy has done is when whoever he’s been. There’s no data that says he wouldn’t adjust and be successful. 

There’s also no data that he would beat top college teams. When I grew up in Indy, there was a player for the Indians named Champ Summers. He was a triple A all star and a stud with the Indians. And that was his ceiling. McCollum may end up a great coach. But if we hire him, it either means we whiffed on about 8 other coaches or we have poor decision makers. Or both.

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14 hours ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I wish I could have taken both of them, but I screwed around too long and had to get on that “come to Jesus” path to graduate on time.

Any class notes you care to share with the group on Frank Zappa?

Not class notes, but I sent my daughter Zappa's "Watermelon in Easter Hay" (one of the most beautiful songs ever). She listened to it while, um, blazing- the spoken word intro freaked her out lol!!!!

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Totally don’t understand the lack of enthusiasm for McCollum.  That Archie trauma must still be strong.  I understand it’s D2, but there’s 300+ division II teams and he won 4 national championships in like 14 years.  Check my math here, but that’s pretty f’n good.  He won 12 straight conference championships.  That is not just a great coach, that is a great system.  And all he’s done in 1 year in D1 is win a conference championship basically with D2 players.
 

but sure…Brownell it up and Beards away!