General Coach Candidate News

[MrBBall 509]

11 minutes ago, cthomas said:

I really like President Pam, but I don't see her signing off on a coach with DV allegations. Add the alcohol issue and I don't think Beard makes it to the discussion phase.

Right. 

[Uspshoosier 50,405]

If I’m Michigan I announce an extension with Dusty minutes before tipoff if the 2 agree to it today however if Dusty doesn’t sign an extension within the rest of the season I believe that shows his hand and going to IU is very likely 

[MikeRoberts 7,617]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If I’m Michigan I announce an extension with Dusty minutes before tipoff if the 2 agree to it today however if Dusty doesn’t sign an extension within the rest of the season I believe that shows his hand and going to IU is very likely 

I wish Dolson would ignore “Indiana ties” from his criteria and go after sure fire winners. Stevens and May are both big gambles

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,830]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

If I’m Michigan I announce an extension with Dusty minutes before tipoff if the 2 agree to it today however if Dusty doesn’t sign an extension within the rest of the season I believe that shows his hand and going to IU is very likely 

This is 100% the case in my mind.  If I’m Vegas, my odds on favorite is Dusty by a mile until an extension is signed. 
 

I honestly don’t think he’s the next best guy or anything even close.  I think Hurley, Oats, McCasland, Painter, Pearl, Sampson, and several others are better.  
 

But he’d give us a real basketball coach with a chance.  I’m a little worried for him tbh, because I don’t know if he’s a strong enough personality.  But if he wins enough, it’ll work out.  
 

Fife and Howard end up back on staff.  And maybe Mullins too. (My big, out there, guess)

[Uspshoosier 50,405]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I wish Dolson would ignore “Indiana ties” from his criteria and go after sure fire winners. Stevens and May are both big gambles

Every coach outside Pitino and Self are probably going to be gambles. I’m sure there are others but you get my point.  

[Unexpectedflash 1,301]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This is 100% the case in my mind.  If I’m Vegas, my odds on favorite is Dusty by a mile until an extension is signed. 
 

I honestly don’t think he’s the next best guy or anything even close.  I think Hurley, Oats, McCasland, Painter, Pearl, Sampson, and several others are better.  
 

But he’d give us a real basketball coach with a chance.  I’m a little worried for him tbh, because I don’t know if he’s a strong enough personality.  But if he wins enough, it’ll work out.  
 

Fife and Howard end up back on staff.  And maybe Mullins too. (My big, out there, guess)

I also agree that those guys are all better but none of them are leaving an already established program imo. I think McCasland goes to Texas if that opens up.

[Hoosierfan2017 23,253]

I’d love to land Beard. If we don’t land Beard but land some other top coach, I’d love that too. But if we, knowing Beard would take the job, end up hiring a Ben McCollum or some other either unproven or unremarkable guy, that’ll be a huge gut punch. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I’m expecting given this administration’s track record. 

[MikeRoberts 7,617]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This is 100% the case in my mind.  If I’m Vegas, my odds on favorite is Dusty by a mile until an extension is signed. 
 

I honestly don’t think he’s the next best guy or anything even close.  I think Hurley, Oats, McCasland, Painter, Pearl, Sampson, and several others are better.  
 

But he’d give us a real basketball coach with a chance.  I’m a little worried for him tbh, because I don’t know if he’s a strong enough personality.  But if he wins enough, it’ll work out.  
 

Fife and Howard end up back on staff.  And maybe Mullins too. (My big, out there, guess)

I believe strongly in personalities mattering. I was around Micah for quite some time and never believed for a second he exuded anything special and my friend played for Dusty and said the same thing. He never for a second thought, wow, this guy is going places.

it doesn’t mean they can’t succeed but if you’ve been around crazy successful people they usually have an aura about them and not sure Dusty does

[Unexpectedflash 1,301]

Truthfully i want no part of McCollum. It’s not even that I don’t think he’s a good coach. He obviously is but their style is like watching paint dry for me and i think he’d run into issues that Tony Bennett had at the end in that good players wont want to play in that system

[Home Jersey 12,244]

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

[Unexpectedflash 1,301]

2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I believe strongly in personalities mattering. I was around Micah for quite some time and never believed for a second he exuded anything special and my friend played for Dusty and said the same thing. He never for a second thought, wow, this guy is going places.

it doesn’t mean they can’t succeed but if you’ve been around crazy successful people they usually have an aura about them and not sure Dusty does

This is nonsense to me. Dusty has already succeeded. Just because he’s not screaming all the time like Hurley doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the personality to be great.

[MikeRoberts 7,617]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Every coach outside Pitino and Self are probably going to be gambles. I’m sure there are others but you get my point.  

In terms of pure winning, I have zero doubt Pearl, Beard and Few wouldn’t make us a contender each year.

i have my doubts about Dusty and Brad

[Unexpectedflash 1,301]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

I think it’s because he’s not jumping around and screaming like Bruce or Hurley. If you watch him on the sideline hes very calm kinda like Brad Stevens was back in the day

[Uspshoosier 50,405]

 

[Home Jersey 12,244]

Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

I think it’s because he’s not jumping around and screaming like Bruce or Hurley. If you watch him on the sideline hes very calm kinda like Brad Stevens was back in the day

Yeah I guess I don’t see that as mutually exclusive 

[MikeRoberts 7,617]

4 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Truthfully i want no part of McCollum. It’s not even that I don’t think he’s a good coach. He obviously is but their style is like watching paint dry for me and i think he’d run into issues that Tony Bennett had at the end in that good players wont want to play in that systemt

I bet the over/under on one of their games the other day and it was set at 99. 99 total points in a D-1 college game is nuts

[Hoosierfan2017 23,253]

The year Dusty is having at Michigan is better than any season IU has had since the 2015/2016 championship team, and that’s after taking over a team that finished last in the conference by three games last year. The worries I had about him last offseason are gone. 

[MikeRoberts 7,617]

5 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

This is nonsense to me. Dusty has already succeeded. Just because he’s not screaming all the time like Hurley doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the personality to be great.

People that know him have said he doesn’t have a strong personality.  Fair to say that doesn’t matter but I don’t think there is much to debate on his personality.

[Hoosierfan2017 23,253]

8 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Truthfully i want no part of McCollum. It’s not even that I don’t think he’s a good coach. He obviously is but their style is like watching paint dry for me and i think he’d run into issues that Tony Bennett had at the end in that good players wont want to play in that systemt

Yeah same. I understand the “I don’t care what it looks like as long as we win,” but after the Woodson and Miller eras I want to watch enjoyable basketball again. Peach basket era basketball isn’t for me. 

[OKHOOSIER 4,935]

10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’d love to land Beard. If we don’t land Beard but land some other top coach, I’d love that too. But if we, knowing Beard would take the job, end up hiring a Ben McCollum or some other either unproven or unremarkable guy, that’ll be a huge gut punch. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I’m expecting given this administration’s track record. 

I just don’t think we will consider him. The baggage is the only reason he’s even a legitimate candidate. There isn’t one without the other. No baggage=he’s still coaching his alma mater. But I understand your sentiment. Personally I don’t think we get to the McCollums so to speak. If we do, so be it, but I don’t think we get that far down the list.