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2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I believe strongly in personalities mattering. I was around Micah for quite some time and never believed for a second he exuded anything special and my friend played for Dusty and said the same thing. He never for a second thought, wow, this guy is going places.

it doesn’t mean they can’t succeed but if you’ve been around crazy successful people they usually have an aura about them and not sure Dusty does

This is nonsense to me. Dusty has already succeeded. Just because he’s not screaming all the time like Hurley doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the personality to be great.

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5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Every coach outside Pitino and Self are probably going to be gambles. I’m sure there are others but you get my point.  

In terms of pure winning, I have zero doubt Pearl, Beard and Few wouldn’t make us a contender each year.

i have my doubts about Dusty and Brad

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

I think it’s because he’s not jumping around and screaming like Bruce or Hurley. If you watch him on the sideline hes very calm kinda like Brad Stevens was back in the day

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[Home Jersey 17,002]

Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

I think it’s because he’s not jumping around and screaming like Bruce or Hurley. If you watch him on the sideline hes very calm kinda like Brad Stevens was back in the day

Yeah I guess I don’t see that as mutually exclusive 

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4 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Truthfully i want no part of McCollum. It’s not even that I don’t think he’s a good coach. He obviously is but their style is like watching paint dry for me and i think he’d run into issues that Tony Bennett had at the end in that good players wont want to play in that systemt

I bet the over/under on one of their games the other day and it was set at 99. 99 total points in a D-1 college game is nuts

[Hoosierfan2017 25,322]

The year Dusty is having at Michigan is better than any season IU has had since the 2015/2016 championship team, and that’s after taking over a team that finished last in the conference by three games last year. The worries I had about him last offseason are gone. 

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5 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

This is nonsense to me. Dusty has already succeeded. Just because he’s not screaming all the time like Hurley doesn’t mean he doesn’t have the personality to be great.

People that know him have said he doesn’t have a strong personality.  Fair to say that doesn’t matter but I don’t think there is much to debate on his personality.

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8 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Truthfully i want no part of McCollum. It’s not even that I don’t think he’s a good coach. He obviously is but their style is like watching paint dry for me and i think he’d run into issues that Tony Bennett had at the end in that good players wont want to play in that systemt

Yeah same. I understand the “I don’t care what it looks like as long as we win,” but after the Woodson and Miller eras I want to watch enjoyable basketball again. Peach basket era basketball isn’t for me. 

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10 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’d love to land Beard. If we don’t land Beard but land some other top coach, I’d love that too. But if we, knowing Beard would take the job, end up hiring a Ben McCollum or some other either unproven or unremarkable guy, that’ll be a huge gut punch. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I’m expecting given this administration’s track record. 

I just don’t think we will consider him. The baggage is the only reason he’s even a legitimate candidate. There isn’t one without the other. No baggage=he’s still coaching his alma mater. But I understand your sentiment. Personally I don’t think we get to the McCollums so to speak. If we do, so be it, but I don’t think we get that far down the list. 

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

The year Dusty is having at Michigan is better than any season IU has had since the 2015/2016 championship team, and that’s after taking over a team that finished last in the conference by three games last year. The worries I had about him last offseason are gone. 

Completely agree. I was luke warm on Dusty last year, but this year has answered a lot of my questions.

Plus I believe Beilein was heavily involved in consulting on UofM's search last Spring, and quickly identified May as the guy. That says a lot to me as well.

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22 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

But he’d give us a real basketball coach with a chance.  I’m a little worried for him tbh, because I don’t know if he’s a strong enough personality.  But if he wins enough, it’ll work out.  
 

Fife and Howard end up back on staff.  

If that happened, there’d be plenty of “strong personality energy” on the staff lol.

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37 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Seems to be very, very inebriated. That was from his time at Texas. Certainly possible that he has gotten help since then.

I don't think he has. There are stories about how he tried to quit drinking, but couldn't pull it off:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/texas-basketball-coach-chris-beard-is-once-again-drinking-beer

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15 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Why do people think Dusty doesn’t have a strong personality or isn’t “alpha” ? Genuinely curious what evidence there is of that. 

I mentioned it yesterday but Norlander has said several times this season that he didn’t take UL due to the fishbowl of it. No idea if that’s true. He Never mentioned the low buyout demand, and I have never found anything to support that oft mentioned claim. Maybe it’s true that it was a deal breaker? I dunno. 
 

In that same vein though, I agree with you I don’t understand where this “not an alpha” thing comes from lol. I don’t care if he’s a statue if he wins games. I know I don’t like Hurleys antics. 

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There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.

But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful there needs to be an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

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I love to dream but reality is probably more like this...

"Scott, why are you calling me again man?!"

 

[mdiu28 2,891]

Greg McDermott anyone?

He’d be lower on my list but if it comes to it, we could certainly do worse. Winner, recruits good kids, cheap. Gimme him over a Ben McCollum any day of the week. 

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National media guys talking about IU are hilarious. They're always like "IU sucks and the fans are delusional. Realistic coaching candidates: Brad Stevens, Bill Self, Mike Krzyzewski."

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Put me in the camp of I don’t care the personality. I don’t care the past issues. As long as they won’t continue that behavior. Who cares alpha or what. JUST WIN. I don’t know how any fan after the last 25-30 years of this, and especially the last 8+ is willing to have so many caveats on this or that. Just hire the person who will WIN

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s a natural tendency to be attracted to an @$$-kicking, hyper-intense coach that wins.

But it’s also true that for a seemingly less intense coach like Stevens or May to be this successful, there is an extraordinary competitive fire and work ethic, albeit one that may not be as apparent to the public.

I think it's because we had Bob Knight here for so long. 

 

When we're on the road, down 20-10, the opposing crowd is going wild and the refs are playing along, they want to see a coach reacting and chewing people out, not being Archie Miller.