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[Stuhoo 91,099]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Dusty was at Assembly Hall last year after the final four run. He was also back in Greene County at Christmas this year. So there have been chances for them to talk. 

 

I'm 100% sure that the Dusty May to Scott Dolson communication pipeline is well established. Dusty May's top assistant Todd Abernethy: "C'mon Dusty! Make it happen!!" and ... "C'mon dad! Make it happen!!"

 

When assistant coach Todd Abernethy is watching his Florida Atlantic University Owls go through their pre-game paces and hears the word “Hickory” from the distance, he knows his father is in the arena.

The man is just not any dad. He is Tom Abernethy, South Bend native and starting forward for the 1976 Indiana Hoosiers, college basketball’s last undefeated men’s champions. “Hickory,” as in the Hickory Huskers of "Hoosiers" movie fame, is the predetermined code that father and son have worked out to announce his presence.

Dad tries to catch as many FAU games as he can, and why not? 

[Uspshoosier 54,732]

Woody isn’t passing up a trip to the Bahamas on the school’s dime.    Also should be a good selling point to transfer portal wings and guards.   We will be playing in the Battle  for Atlantis.  That will especially be appealing to a 5th year seniors that only has 1 year 

[HoosierTrav 8,339]

3 hours ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

If we had fired Crean before the 2011-2012 season would we have been able to get Stevens? 

According to Dakich, yes.

[HoosierTrav 8,339]

7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Woody isn’t passing up a trip to the Bahamas on the school’s dime.    Also should be a good selling point to transfer portal wings and guards.   We will be playing in the Battle  for Atlantis.  That will especially be appealing to a 5th year senior that only has 1 year 

Who dis? 

[Hornsby 3,870]

Woody isn’t passing up a trip to the Bahamas on the school’s dime.    Also should be a good selling point to transfer portal wings and guards.   We will be playing in the Battle  for Atlantis.  That will especially be appealing to a 5th year senior that only has 1 year 

Of course Woodson isn't passing it up. He knows he cannot be fired at iu so he is here as long as he wants to be.

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,325]

Just now, Hornsby said:

Of course Woodson isn't passing it up. He knows he cannot be fired at iu so he is here as long as he wants to be.

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And he seems content with screwing the program. No shocker.

[Uspshoosier 54,732]

1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said:

Who dis? 

Seniors.  no one in particular 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,325]

If you're Dolson, gotta grow a pair and hand a blank check to Lloyd's agent, Drew's agent, Donovan's agent and ask "what will it take" and work from there. Act like a damned blue blood instead of Northwestern.

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

10 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

According to Dakich, yes.

Jesus - So you're telling me that Tom Crean won 8 BT games in 3 years at IU. Then IU didn't make the move on Stevens because of the Zeller recruitment, based purely on one recruit,  and then gave him a $10M buyout the following year for making it to a S16? Was there anyone else that was saying Creans S16 years were more of a false positive and ceiling of his potential and that this was a bad idea? 

[Kentuckysucks 4,351]

8 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Jesus - So you're telling me that Tom Crean won 8 BT games in 3 years at IU. Then IU didn't make the move on Stevens because of the Zeller recruitment, based purely on one recruit,  and then gave him a $10M buyout the following year for making it to a S16? Was there anyone else that was saying Creans S16 years were more of a false positive and ceiling of his potential and that this was a bad idea? 

We haven't been a serious University in decades.

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We haven't been a serious University in decades.

How are we not serious? We signed Tom Crean to a $10M buyout when Brad Stevens was available. Then after paying a cumulative $24.5M to fire both his football and basketball hires, our AD wrote a book titled "How I rebuilt Indiana Athletics"

Imagine reading this statement as someone who's not an IU fan.

[Home Jersey 16,871]

12 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Jesus - So you're telling me that Tom Crean won 8 BT games in 3 years at IU. Then IU didn't make the move on Stevens because of the Zeller recruitment, based purely on one recruit,  and then gave him a $10M buyout the following year for making it to a S16? Was there anyone else that was saying Creans S16 years were more of a false positive and ceiling of his potential and that this was a bad idea? 

No use crying over spilled milk. We're talking about something over a decade ago at this point.

And no reason to believe that if Stevens had wound up here, he wouldn't have just left when the NBA came calling anyway. So at best he'd have probably gotten things rolling, reached a similar level of success at Butler (maybe 1 FF or championship game appearance) then left. OBVIOUSLY it would be great to have done that, but it's all fantasy, so why get upset wondering about the what ifs? 

It's a new situation in 2024. Lot of season left. Lot of time for circumstances to change. We'll see!

[southernindianahoosier2 1,056]

7 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

No use crying over spilled milk. We're talking about something over a decade ago at this point.

And no reason to believe that if Stevens had wound up here, he wouldn't have just left when the NBA came calling anyway. So at best he'd have probably gotten things rolling, reached a similar level of success at Butler (maybe 1 FF or championship game appearance) then left. OBVIOUSLY it would be great to have done that, but it's all fantasy, so why get upset wondering about the what ifs? 

It's a new situation in 2024. Lot of season left. Lot of time for circumstances to change. We'll see!

True true. I get worked up some times because the product has been bad for so many years that I'm trying to make sense on how this even happened in the first place and continues to happen. I searching for a glimmer of hope that things will be better. 

[Home Jersey 16,871]

Just now, southernindianahoosier2 said:

True true. I get worked up some times because the product has been bad for so many years that I'm trying to make sense on how this even happened in the first place and continues to happen. I searching for a glimmer of hope that things will be better. 

We're in the same boat there brother! Think we're all searching for some reason to be optimistic at this point. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,880]

32 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And he seems content with screwing the program. No shocker.

I mean, I don't think he thinks he's the problem at this point.  Besides roster construction, it would be easy to pass the blame onto the players this year and feel authentic.  Our guys have been pretty bad. Now granted, outside looking in, besides roster construction, he has done a lot of harm.  Re:substitutions, play style, fundamentals, shot selection, defense in general.

Anyway, I genuinely don't think Woodson believes this one is on him besides the maybe the Guard situation.  

And that is part of my concern, is knowing what type of talent and scheme it takes to build a top 10 team.  I think a lot of the staff thought they had top 10 talent this year.  Heck, Even I could see it with improvement from X and Galloway.  

[Artie86 3,515]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Couldn't have said it better myself and that's saying a lot :-)

Tell him he will always have access to the program, lifetime membership to the golf course, and go enjoy spoiling that grandbaby. 

Agree, Woodson won't be fired, ......he will leave/retire before it gets too hot. He originally signed a deal for six years and said he was hoping to coach till he was 75. He's definitely not the kind of guy to wear out his welcome.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,325]

30 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

How are we not serious? We signed Tom Crean to a $10M buyout when Brad Stevens was available. Then after paying a cumulative $24.5M to fire both his football and basketball hires, our AD wrote a book titled "How I rebuilt Indiana Athletics"

Imagine reading this statement as someone who's not an IU fan.

I think that kinda proves how unserious we are...

[Home Jersey 16,871]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I think that kinda proves how unserious we are...

He was being sarcastic bud

[Kentuckysucks 4,351]

34 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

How are we not serious? We signed Tom Crean to a $10M buyout when Brad Stevens was available. Then after paying a cumulative $24.5M to fire both his football and basketball hires, our AD wrote a book titled "How I rebuilt Indiana Athletics"

Imagine reading this statement as someone who's not an IU fan.

You forgot to add that we paid a $10M buyout to fire Archie and then hired a guy who is now performing far worse in year 3 than Archie did in year 3.  Year's 1 and 2 were all Trayce.

You seriously cannot make this sh** up.

[AZ Hoosier 11,141]

43 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I mean, I don't think he thinks he's the problem at this point.  Besides roster construction, it would be easy to pass the blame onto the players this year and feel authentic.  Our guys have been pretty bad. Now granted, outside looking in, besides roster construction, he has done a lot of harm.  Re:substitutions, play style, fundamentals, shot selection, defense in general.

Anyway, I genuinely don't think Woodson believes this one is on him besides the maybe the Guard situation.  

And that is part of my concern, is knowing what type of talent and scheme it takes to build a top 10 team.  I think a lot of the staff thought they had top 10 talent this year.  Heck, Even I could see it with improvement from X and Galloway.  

A lot of this (most of this?) IS on Woodson. Roster construct is an embarrassment. In the pressers he throws players under the bus and talks constantly about "we gotta get better" and "gotta get 'em over the hump", but whatever hump they're trying to get over, Woody kills the efforts with the crappy substitution patterns and schemes... He's regularly out-coached game in and game out... and his arrogance isn't doing him any favors with comments like "I'm not gonna sit here and answer questions from the fans or you...". That attitude might work if he was winning... but he's not... and when he loses, he loses big time... and we're getting into the tough part of the schedule... it's only gonna get worse... @ Purdue, @ Illinois, vs Iowa, 2 against Wisconsin... 

Hope he's got a magical rabbit in his hat.

EDIT: Corrected upcoming schedule

 

Edited January 18, 2024 by AZ Hoosier