General Coach Candidate News

[IU Scott 2,375]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:58 PM, IU Prof said:

I agree with that and have been saying the same. But if that's the plan, then don't reach out to your conference rival's coach in the interim and have it leak to make you look foolish.

 

How do you know that is true at all.  Just like the Matta rumor was shot down as untrue. 

[hoosrnight 52]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:19 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Dolson is in completely over his head at this point. I think after both the Matta news and this news we can conclude that he doesn’t have some master plan of getting a guy still coaching. I don’t think he has any plan at all beyond grasping at straws.  

The Matta news was bs, and Goodman keeps throwing names out there that we supposedly want and they don’t want us. I truly don’t think anyone but Dolson and maybe the people that ponied up the money have any idea who they are after and talking to. It’s not even been 2 weeks yet, chill out and let Dolson do his job!

Edited March 26, 2021 by hoosrnight

[Deserthoozier 1,104]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:49 PM, IU Prof said:

Unless you are drinking the BradAnon kool aid, from the outside looking in it appears that the wheels are coming off this search. If I'm Dolson, I would be leaking something to give the fan base some sense that things are under control...unless he can't, because it isn't under control.

This...everyone and their mother getting a shot in. Dolson needs to get in front of the bad perceptions/rumor mill that makes things appear completely dysfunctional. If it’s not that bad, do something to get in front of it. If it is that bad, well, I guess we’re all totally F’d!!

[Indiana8585 129]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:55 PM, IUCrazy2 said:

Because they can and do pay a bunch of money for that.  

We have much more of a pro type of situation here.  The coach wins or the coach has to get the f out.  We are kind of in a catch 22, losing as much as we have for a program that feels the resources and such should have lead to better results leads to anger or apathy.  IU has screwed this up so bad that the patience just is not there anymore.  If you are winning at your school and they are paying you $2.5 million a year (or more) how much more do you require to take this risk?

This job just set Archie Miller back quite a bit.

And the dirty truth that I don't think our Bob Knight obsessed fanbase or administration can come to grips with is that the holier than thou stuff ties one of our hands behind our back before we even take the court.  We reported for phone calls...you can say the other stuff about Sampson, but we narc'ed on a coach for phone calls.  The administration does not really give off the "we will help you win" vibe while also giving off the "you will be judged harshly and quickly if you do not win" vibe.

I hope Dolson actually has a rabbit to pull out of a hat, his @$$, or wherever...because appearances are that this program is in some really big trouble.

Wait so you mean Texas the school who ran off Rick Barnes? The one coach who’s had success there. That’s pretty harsh if you ask me, and they just ran off a coach who had 3 tourney appearances when Archie had zero. 
 

How on earth did we set Archie back? His 100 year bad record as coach is what set us back. He was terrible 100 years terrible. 
 

I already said I agreed about Sampson but that’s in the past and broke the rules he had just been charged for  I blame Herbert for demanding a minority hire since we fired Davis 

 

[IU Prof 1,748]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:59 PM, IU Scott said:

How do you know that is true at all.  Just like the Matta rumor was shot down as untrue. 

Rabby has confirmed the Goodman report re Holtmann.

[Dizz 323]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:58 PM, Its Always Sunny at IU said:

Texas will not go through the embarrassment that Dolson is putting IU through right now. It's a better basketball program without question. 

This search more embarassing than the Shaka era?

[jonz44 827]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:21 PM, Chris007 said:

I hope these guys are getting fed bad info. 

More than likely they are making up their own info and it's a game of "you verify my info and I'll verify yours" to make each other look legitimate. They all always seem to have known a helluva lot more after the fact than before and during the situation. They get paid to have a worse track record than weathermen. Everybody lies in their business. My dad used to say don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. That definitely applies to the media. 

[AZ Hoosier 9,592]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:52 PM, Its Always Sunny at IU said:

Probably the Matta the story was true. Dolson is basically a fundraiser/cheerleader and has no experience with hiring coaches. And it's showing. A complete embarrassment. He's certainly not playing 3-D chess like some posters believe. Just hire Fife and get this circus over with already. 

Well, weren't you just a little dollop of sunshine.

I have learned one thing riding out these coaching searches... 2000-now. We can post. We can weep and wail and gnash our teeth. We can stomp our tiny little feet and b*tch and moan... but at the end of the day, we have ZERO say in anything... I initially started trying to keep up with this and the other candidate threads... I'm retired and basically have no life, and it's just not possible.

As the old saw goes, opinions are like armpits (or massholes) - we all have 'em, and they all stink... so let's just ride this out and see where it gets us BEFORE we fire up the torches and round up the posse.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

  On 3/26/2021 at 7:16 PM, Unexpectedflash said:

North Carolina won in 2017 at 40 and Duke won in 2015 at 104. I think a lot of it is from Archies teams being so slow and being hard to watch so most people are weary of going that route again.

Looking at those numbers though it seems to me that if you play slow, you have to make a lot of 3s to be successful. I know Nova and UVA both took a high percentage of their shots from 3. I don’t think Moser’s teams take that many but I could be wrong.

 

  On 3/26/2021 at 7:17 PM, Iubravos said:

I'm not opposed to a coach that plays good D and values the ball but just not Moser. Gonzaga didn't win it that year but I think they were in the finals so moot point.  I just want a coach that gets in year in year out. I also think you get better recruits playing a little more up tempo. Then when you teach them good defense, you're in a win win situation. 

Yeah, my bad. I was just looking at #1 rated overall KenPom at end of year.

 

[Indiana8585 129]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:57 PM, OKHOOSIER said:

Dude you have to put your emotion and love for IU to the side. I am not speaking to you as a guy who does not bleed IU, two degrees, met my wife there, I love Bloomington and the state. I have been around the world in the Air Force, met diehard fans around the landscape of college sports, and I can tell you 100% no one outside of our bubble thinks the IU job is better than say a Texas or Arkansas job because of a couple of SSs in the last six years. By your logic, Loyola Chicago is a better job than IU. We are not looked at by the basketball world like a Duke, UNC or Kentucky. It pains me to even type that, but it is reality. The ceiling is there, but right now we are stuck in the elevator in the basement.

Well I stopped reading after you said Arkansas is a better job that’s funny. First sweet 16 since 1996 and it’s better?? Hahaha 

Well as a fourth generation IU alum I can tell you I’ve been plenty of places around the world fir work and prime see IU and say basketball and when they see Texas it’s football. Anyone who thinks Arkansas is a better job than IU obviously doesn’t watch or understand basketball. 
 

Also thank you for your service 

Edited March 26, 2021 by Indiana8585

[Unexpectedflash 1,387]

At least one national media guy is on our side.

[Stuhoo 86,200]

  On 3/26/2021 at 9:01 PM, AZ Hoosier said:

Well, weren't you just a little dollop of sunshine.

I have learned one thing riding out these coaching searches... 2000-now. We can post. We can weep and wail and gnash our teeth. We can stomp our tiny little feet and b*tch and moan... but at the end of the day, we have ZERO say in anything... I initially started trying to keep up with this and the other candidate threads... I'm retired and basically have no life, and it's just not possible.

As the old saw goes, opinions are like armpits (or massholes) - we all have 'em, and they all stink... so let's just ride this out and see where it gets us BEFORE we fire up the torches and round up the posse.

"Opinions are like massholes"...lol

[Indiana8585 129]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:58 PM, Southside said:

It's not really about the last 20, or even 10 years. It's more about the last 5. 

We have long term memories. Kids don't.

They haven’t won a tournament game since 2014

[Its Always Sunny at IU 191]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:58 PM, Treesh said:

We shall see. I’m holding my judgement. For all we know Brad Stevens is asking for a mansion on the outskirts of the city. We will see if there is Fire Scott thread soon enough

You don't go after Matta and Holtman if there is some deal with Stevens. You are more calm than I so congrats. And your thoughts on keeping Miller are probably what should have happened all along. I cannot believe we raised 10 mil to fire Miller with absolutely no plan. But that's what has happened.

[Iubravos 327]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:58 PM, MikeRoberts said:

That’s like saying because IU football has been better than than Texas recently that we are on par with them in football. We are not

This guy gets its. It's not that hard to understand.  So basically if you have a better record you're a better job is what I'm getting. This is not true. 

[thehelgo 90]

I'm guessing Stevens was the entire plan.  No contingency after that - simply appears we are throwing darts at this point hoping to hit something.

[Trish 12,888]

  On 3/26/2021 at 9:04 PM, Its Always Sunny at IU said:

You don't go after Matta and Holtman if there is some deal with Stevens. You are more calm than I so congrats. And your thoughts on keeping Miller are probably what should have happened all along. I cannot believe we raised 10 mil to fire Miller with absolutely no plan. But that's what has happened.

Treesh was right is music to my ears. But I’ll hold judgement a little while longer before I start an apology thread LOL

 

Its doesn’t look great with the rumors and transfers. History may repeat itself.. 

[HoosierMatty 524]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:49 PM, Unexpectedflash said:

Apparently IU fans are some unique breed of fandom that is so much worse than every other fanbase in the country. It doesn't matter that the Liddel at OSU needed security after social media threats, or that UNC and UK fans want their coaches fired after one bad year. No IU fans are so scary because after 20 years with minimal success we're hoping not to settle for mediocrity. I'm tired of this notion that IU fans are somehow so much harder to deal with than other fanbases. If UNC, Kentucky, or Kansas fans had to deal with the lack of success that we have the last twenty years I'm sure they would be even worse than us. 

Uk would have burned Lexington to the ground if they were in our spot. The problem has been the administration never getting it right or taking this hire seriously enough. Let's be honest even before Knight was fired we were going down hill. For any intense fan base this is like Chinese water torture to a normal person. Yes our fans can be bad and yes it may scare away some coaches, but the only thing that makes us any different than others is we have been allowed to be this restless for so long. Because the people in charge don't care and can't get it right.

[IU Scott 2,375]

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[Iubravos 327]

  On 3/26/2021 at 8:55 PM, Hoosier2014 said:

One school you will become a god at if you succeed. The other you won't even fill your arena and will always be an afterthought to the football program. Maybe you could say one is less stressful and therefore a better job but its not based on what you are saying that's for sure.

Thank you, another person understands.  I'm baffled by people these days but i guess I shouldn't be anymore.