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56 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Has I’ve said before, besides Beard, Brownell, and the other names etc…don’t be shocked if we land a high major that nobody is talking about. 

With mid-major coaches, you have to determine if they are winning because of their X's and O's or if they are simply out recruiting their mid-major competition and have better Jimmys and Joes.  Because that recruiting doesn't always carry over when you go up a level.    

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He had a great first year at Drake, definitely. Drake wasn’t exactly in the dumpster when he took it over, and he benefited from continuity by bringing over many of his players. IU will basically have an empty roster heading into the transfer portal. Can be navigate the portal to build a team on the fly that can compete in the Big 10 next season? 

Yep and he didn’t have to manage massive NIL , deal with Agents, truly recruit the portal , and navigate crazy high expectations in arguably the top conference in the country going against other top coaches . 
 

again you don’t get 3-4 years to rebuild in todays college basketball as I mentioned Oral Roberts fired their coach after just 2 years. Say what you will about Woodson it’s not like McCollum would be taking over after Archie . IU is likely to have had 3/4 years in the tourney . He’s gotta do better than Woodson and that’s make the tourney every year and finish i the top half of the Big Ten . If he can’t do that within the 1st 2 years it’s right back to square 1 

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15 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

The above having been said, I will also say that Goodman's tweet is once again kind of vague about what's sourced and what isn't.

The favorable interpretation - Jeff heard from an agent that a guy who clearly would be down our list was just contacted for the first time by IU. This leads him to conclude that Drew, Otz, etc., are out if we're only now reaching out to 3rd tier candidate.

The less favorable interpretation- Jeff knows first hand that Drew, Brad, and Otz are all out, since he's close to all of them.

My intuition is #2, but my heart hopes it's #1.

Given Goodman’s follow up tweet about IU should just hire Beard, I think it’s nothing more than Beard’s agent confirming to Goodman what we already knew (Beard is being vetted). And he either knows, or very likely correctly assuming, that means those guys he listed are out. Just my opinion.

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We’re gonna look back on last year’s decision to retain Woodson as a major inflection point in Indiana basketball history, and not in a good way.

We could’ve had Dusty May or Bruce Pearl. Instead we’re left with nothing but scraps because most coaches don’t want to deal with the cluster**** that is Indiana.

I trust Scott Dolson. The issue is that he was not permitted to do his job last year, and it put Indiana’s dysfunction on full display and scared off many high level coaches. It’s entirely possible that IU still lands a big time coach. But I’m more and more worried with every day that passes.

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1 minute ago, EasyEJay said:

Yep and he didn’t have to manage massive NIL , deal with Agents, truly recruit the portal , and navigate crazy high expectations in arguably the top conference in the country going against other top coaches . 
 

again you don’t get 3-4 years to rebuild in todays college basketball as I mentioned Oral Roberts fired their coach after just 2 years. Say what you will about Woodson it’s not like McCollum would be taking over after Archie . IU is likely to have had 3/4 years in the tourney . He’s gotta do better than Woodson and that’s make the tourney every year and finish i the top half of the Big Ten . If he can’t do that within the 1st 2 years it’s right back to square 1 

I think he could fall back to the Woodson recruiting method.. go to rankings, offer each a mil, go golfing. 

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57 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Question for everyone…. What does Brownell bring to the table? I know really nothing about him. Is he good at X’s and O’s? Is he a good recruiter? Can he hire great assistants?

Judging by his rather lengthy career at the power 5 level, aggressive mediocrity.

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2 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

We’re gonna look back on last year’s decision to retain Woodson as a major inflection point in Indiana basketball history, and not in a good way.

We could’ve had Dusty May or Bruce Pearl. Instead we’re left with nothing but scraps because most coaches don’t want to deal with the cluster**** that is Indiana.

I trust Scott Dolson. The issue is that he was not permitted to do his job last year, and it put Indiana’s dysfunction on full display and scared off many high level coaches. It’s entirely possible that IU still lands a big time coach. But I’m more and more worried with every day that passes.

The problem is Dolson isn't allowed to hire whoever he wants.  If he was I'd have little doubt we'd get someone very good.  The administration and some big donors have winning way down on their list of priorities.

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42 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Rabby now says that Brownell is not out of the running.

To be fair, most writers are going to say the exact same names. Anyone with an Indiana connection will be listed, mid major coach or the year mention, whatever. 
 

This process has been extremely quiet, there was smoke for a while before people got told to quiet down. It’s also been the longest process due to the timing or Woodson being fired mid to late season. We’re almost to the finish line. 

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2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Given Goodman’s follow up tweet about IU should just hire Beard, I think it’s nothing more than Beard’s agent confirming to Goodman what we already knew (Beard is being vetted). And he either knows, or very likely correctly assuming, that means those guys he listed are out. Just my opinion.

There's also a metric ****-ton of plausible deniability if any of those three actually got hired. It's a zero risk assumption, he doesn't look like an idiot for that if he ends up incorrect. It is simply "I am as shocked as everyone else across the landscape that IU landed X,Y, or Z" because it would be massive earth shaking news in CBB, and across the NBA too if it was BS. He can just fall in with all the other media types who all thought none of those were ever realistic. 

I am in no way saying I think any of that actually happens, but this is not some crazy sourced leak of information saying BS, SD and TJO are out lol

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Still can't get caught up but it appears there are some drama queens posting today. I see we should just get rid of the basketball program or this search is a complete failure. I don't understand why anyone would be surprised that those coaches mentioned would not be interested in the job. Our fans need to just look at the past hiring cycles and realize you don't see many power conference coaches leaving for another job. The ones who will leave are guys like Beard or Brownell who are at lower tier power conference teams.

 

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