What Can IUBB do to Revive Your Excitement/Confidence?

[Trish]

21 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Crean brought in Cody Zeller who was a much better college player than Romeo Langford and Yogi Ferrell who also was an excellent player. He brought in Thomas Bryant, James Blackmon Jr. and Juwan Morgan. I am no fan of Tom Crean. But while he brought in a few players that didn't amount to much, he also recruited some great players who went on to play in the NBA.

He also brought in players who ran over teammates while drunk driving. Team could recruit, but we know he couldn't coach.

He's a saleman. 

And while most would argue Archie can't recruit nor coach, I'd still rather have Archie than CTC any day of the week!

[Trish]

We lost to a 2-3 zone with TWO top 5 NBA draft picks and great rotational players. 

We arguably should've won the championship that year. Even Obama picked us! 

 

[Honkyman]

"And that is the Crean era summarized in a few sentences. Inconsistent."

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Now we have consistent mediocrity.

[Trish]

18 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

"And that is the Crean era summarized in a few sentences. Inconsistent."

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Now we have consistent mediocrity.

I'd argue Crean led us to consistent mediocrity after his Sweet 16 fail. 

[Honkyman]

I didn't like either hire. IU deserves better than what they getting imo.

[lillurk]

I want tournament success, everyone does, but one thing I’d caution everyone to consider in evaluating coaches is consistently making the tournament, and doing so with a high seed. I know everyone’s other issues with Crean, fair and otherwise, but the 2013 loss wouldn’t look as bad if he could’ve consistently built teams as good as that and the one before it.

When you’re a top 4 seed most years, still making the tourney in “down” years, there will be years you underperform and lose in the S16. Happens to literally every elite coach. The issue is when you have the resources at a place like IU and can’t consistently get there.

Nobody really grumbles about Crean’s other two S16 losses. They lost to a UK title team while playing well and a hot-shooting national runner-up UNC team. If he’d more consistently had too ~12-15 teams, one year or another you win one of those tough S16 games, or your region is destroyed by upsets and you cakewalk to the F4. Some of that is outside your control, much as we don’t like to acknowledge it. 

[coonhounds]

Get a new coach anybody at this point and my excitement will be renewed.

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[Hoosierfan2017]

Don’t even know what it’d take at this point. Winning, I guess. I was looking forward to this game, but got bored pretty soon after tip off. I’ve had half an eye on the screen since then. I got mad at losses during the Crean era. Now, meh. I go into every game expecting us to lose. Expecting us to keep it a 5-10 point game for most of the game but never pulling ahead. The combination of empty arenas and mediocre play has me more checked out on IU basketball than I have been in a very long time. I’m at the point where I’ve accepted were never going to be what we used to be, and I’m never going to experience IU at the top of its glory during my lifetime.

[coonhounds]

Don’t even know what it’d take at this point. Winning, I guess. I was looking forward to this game, but got bored pretty soon after tip off. I’ve had half an eye on the screen since then. I got mad at losses during the Crean era. Now, meh. I go into every game expecting us to lose. Expecting us to keep it a 5-10 point game for most of the game but never pulling ahead. The combination of empty arenas and mediocre play has me more checked out on IU basketball than I have been in a very long time. I’m at the point where I’ve accepted were never going to be what we used to be, and I’m never going to experience IU at the top of its glory during my lifetime.

That attitude yes you are right luckily there are many passionate fans and past players and great alumni that hopefully won't stand for this and we will keep pressing to get great again. It has to happen

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Don’t even know what it’d take at this point. Winning, I guess. I was looking forward to this game, but got bored pretty soon after tip off. I’ve had half an eye on the screen since then. I got mad at losses during the Crean era. Now, meh. I go into every game expecting us to lose. Expecting us to keep it a 5-10 point game for most of the game but never pulling ahead. The combination of empty arenas and mediocre play has me more checked out on IU basketball than I have been in a very long time. I’m at the point where I’ve accepted were never going to be what we used to be, and I’m never going to experience IU at the top of its glory during my lifetime.

Yep. I watch every game on tape delay because I know we are going to suck. I can fast forward through the suck. I fast forward through the majority of our games these days.

Archie ain’t it.

Hire a freaking winner. Enough is enough.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

That attitude yes you are right luckily there are many passionate fans and past players and great alumni that hopefully won't stand for this and we will keep pressing to get great again. It has to happen

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Honestly, it’s just me recognizing that I’m just an ordinary fan at the end of the day who can’t really do anything about it. I’m not a former player or a big donor so I don’t have any juice to squeeze. Getting mad about the games just puts me in a bad mood and doesn’t do anything to fix things, so what’s the point. I was big on the tank train during Crean’s last year because I thought we could land a home run hire to bring IU back. I thought Archie was going to be that guy. But it hasn’t worked out, and we’re 4 more years away from our past. Maybe we get things turned around. I hope that we do because I love IU and I loved my time at IU. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. But if we don’t, it is what it is. 

[IUc2016]

Honestly, it’s just me recognizing that I’m just an ordinary fan at the end of the day who can’t really do anything about it. I’m not a former player or a big donor so I don’t have any juice to squeeze. Getting mad about the games just puts me in a bad mood and doesn’t do anything to fix things, so what’s the point. I was big on the tank train during Crean’s last year because I thought we could land a home run hire to bring IU back. I thought Archie was going to be that guy. But it hasn’t worked out, and we’re 4 more years away from our past. Maybe we get things turned around. I hope that we do because I love IU and I loved my time at IU. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. But if we don’t, it is what it is. 

Me too man. Exactly where I am.

I remember everyone saying that the coaching search after crean was so important because if IU missed again the program was done. Well looks like they missed, and it doesn’t seem like there is any alternative to what we have.


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[HoosierAloha]

It's all my fault peeps.  The two times I've attended IU have been dark dark times.  Hopefully, I'll have finished my degree and IU can get back to winning ways.

[pumpfake]

Nude cheerleaders.

[rcbowla]

Nude cheerleaders.

If I could give multiple likes I'd give 4 for your post and one for your avatar which I've wanted to do for a long time.

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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

For the Al Durham fan club(whoever is even left) be needs 121 more points to reach 1000 in his career. 

[Magisterium]

On 1/14/2021 at 9:20 PM, pumpfake said:

Nude cheerleaders.

and maybe a new mascot who can dunk off a mini-trampoline during timeouts--might as well go for broke