Negativity Thread

[Chris007]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

So then he’s a coward?


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I don't get into the name-calling stuff. Whatever it is, he just thinks it's easier to go back to being an attorney than dealing with this. 

[JSHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

So then he’s a coward?


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Yes, on top of being a lousy AD.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I don't get into the name-calling stuff. Whatever it is, he just thinks it's easier to go back to being an attorney than dealing with this. 

You just explained a yellow-belly.


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[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

You just explained a yellow-belly.


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https://y.yarn.co/a75d98ab-3a19-41a7-8f5d-e5e11d8707f2.mp4

[lillurk]

Just for fun: Crean year four was Wat Shot and a s16. And from then on every Crean team save ‘14* was better than any Archie IU team yet based on Kenpom #s.

*’14 would’ve been easier to stomach if the ‘13 season had ended more palatably.

No shortage of evidence that basketball programs can turn around quickly. Coaches can change, and change their fortune...but this one hasn’t yet.

[Bowhunter]

Fred needs to save his legacy and fire him at the end of this season.  

I don’t think that saves his legacy . He is the one who hired him.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Glass’ legacy will always be “well the swimming the team is good.”


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[Hoosierfan2017]

I can live with losses, even losses to Purdue. What I can't live with are losses that happen because of a lack of effort. If the team goes out and competes hard for 40 minutes and comes out with a loss it's not the end of the world. But when the team comes out flat, over and over again, and loses because of it, changes have to be made. Archie is done as the basketball coach at IU; and I imagine he knows it. The only question is when he actually gets fired. 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I can live with losses, even losses to Purdue. What I can't live with are losses that happens because of a lack of effort. If the team goes out and competes hard for 40 minutes and come out with a loss it's not the end of the world. But when the team comes out flat, over and over again, and loses because of it, changes have to be made. Archie is done as the basketball coach at IU; and I imagine he knows it. The only question is when he actually gets fired. 

March of 2021

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

March of 2021

Depending on donations.


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[bigrod]

Chris, what is the mood like behind the scenes? Anything you can comfortably talk about?

[Josh]

It warms my heart to see all you guys realizing that Archie is a terrible coach.  Maybe we can all become one family again now!  <HUGZ>

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Depending on donations.


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Correct but you have to remember Fred is staying till July. New AD is coming in around there so there won't be a firing July or August. People can donate what they want but Fred is not making this hire & the new AD won't be here. 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Chris, what is the mood like behind the scenes? Anything you can comfortably talk about?

I will say there is a cancer or two on the team and we will be better when they are not around. But still, put some blame on Archie for playing them. If you're going to lose, at least lose playing your guys. That is all I will say for now

[Hoosierfan2017]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

March of 2021

That's what I figured. Assuming we don't turn the season around his seat will be flaming hot entering next year, but he'll be back. Honestly, as an IU fan I hope Archie can find a way to figure things out next year because I really do not want to go through another crappy season + a rebuild afterwards. I just want to be good. 

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

It warms my heart to see all you guys realizing that Archie is a terrible coach.  Maybe we can all become one family again now!  <HUGZ>

You also have to remember that if he has a good year next year he won't necessarily be fired either. I know you don't think that is possible but I'm just saying it's not guaranteed he will be fired.

Also, we haven't been united since Knight left. Some like Davis, some didn't and the same with Sampson, & Crean. I don't see someone being hired that is going to unite everyone. 

[LamarCheeks]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I will say there is a cancer or two on the team and we will be better when they are not around. But still, put some blame on Archie for playing them. If you're going to lose, at least lose playing your guys. That is all I will say for now

This is the thing that puzzles me. There are guys who are really negative influences on the team -- or so it would seem. And I would think we can guess who they are. But every game, the same guys are either starting or getting 25 or so min. of PT. Maybe it comes down from the higher ups that you can't kick guys off, but it certainly doesn't come down from the higher ups that you have to play them so much. It just seems very strange. 

[NashvilleHoosier]

Is the possibility of donors paying the buyout actually a thing? Forgive my ignorance on this subject. I assume it is. But specifically is it possible for Cuban or a collection of donors to bring a check to the athletic department and say this is to be used for the very specific reason of paying the buyout on the basketball coach's contract? Or is it a more "official" process where they have to donate money to the athletic department and the AD gets to decide how best to use it? 

[darB s'tI]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

You also have to remember that if he has a good year next year he won't necessarily be fired either. I know you don't think that is possible but I'm just saying it's not guaranteed he will be fired.

Also, we haven't been united since Knight left. Some like Davis, some didn't and the same with Sampson, & Crean. I don't see someone being hired that is going to unite everyone. 

I will never disagree with you Chris (and I don't even know you!) but as an alternate opinion, if Cheaney came in and won, the fan base would unite. I'm not sure he is capable of doing that, but it would definitely bring everyone together.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

That's what I figured. Assuming we don't turn the season around his seat will be flaming hot entering next year, but he'll be back. Honestly, as an IU fan I hope Archie can find a way to figure things out next year because I really do not want to go through another crappy season + a rebuild afterwards. I just want to be good. 

He could do two things to be good now but he won’t because he’s not a good enough coach.


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