IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN

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26 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Eh... depends on your definition of crap. I’d say we have probably 40% of the time. We had multiple 10-20 minute spurts of crap against cream puffs. We played like crap for all of Wisconsin. Played like crap for most of UConn. Played like crap for all of Nebraska. So maybe more than 40%.


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So in two of the three games we 'played like crap', we won.

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3 hours ago, BottomLine said:

For the Sky is Falling Club that thinks IU should be embarrassed by our win over Nebraska, and that Nebraska resembles something smelly that my dogs left in the back yard, Nebraska just beat Purdue by 14. 

For those who called it 'the most embarrassing win in program history' to a team 'projected to go 0-20 in the Big Ten', you would think at the minimum they would get a little more perspective on it.

Fact:  'projected' to go 0-20 isn't accurate.  If Pom projected Nebraska to have a minimum of 1% chance to win at, say, Ohio State, and a 45% chance to win if they host Rutgers, they weren't projected an 0-20 record. Being an underdog in 20 games doesn't project to 0-20....if you have an average of 20% chance to win each game, the projection is 4-16.

Nebraska isn't very good.  An accurate analysis of the, though, is saying they are approximately rated 120 to 150ish in the nation (Pom has them at 126 after the Purdue game)    They are Vanderbilt-ish....we lose to Vanderbilt at home, it's a bad loss....nothing less, nothing more.

[Brass Cannon]

Did Hoiberg beat Purdue before Archie

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28 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Did Hoiberg beat Purdue before Archie

I think you are missing the forest for the trees here:  Purdue lost.....to a team that I'm sure a lot of us were getting **** from our Purdue coworkers because 'it took overtime' for us to beat that same team.  

[Old Friend]

Fellas, the Big Ten is a brutal league.   It has been for as long as I've been alive.  We're not going undefeated in the Big Ten.  Nobody is.  There will be nights we look great and nights we look awful.  When we look awful, it doesn't mean we should fire a coach or athletic director and when we look great it doesn't mean we're contenders.  Upsets happen every week.  At the end of the day, the Big Ten is either the best or second best basketball conference in the country year in and year out.  I think we'll make the NCAA tournament and be a tough out when we get there.

People panicking over close, ugly wins really should put today's game in perspective.  That was Indiana a year or two ago.  The emotional over reactions to every play, every half, and every outcome are exhausting.  Nobody who matters looks at any part of a program through that microscope.

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5 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Fellas, the Big Ten is a brutal league.   It has been for as long as I've been alive.  We're not going undefeated in the Big Ten.  Nobody is.  There will be nights we look great and nights we look awful.  When we look awful, it doesn't mean we should fire a coach or athletic director and when we look great it doesn't mean we're contenders.  Upsets happen every week.  At the end of the day, the Big Ten is either the best or second best basketball conference in the country year in and year out.  I think we'll make the NCAA tournament and be a tough out when we get there.

People panicking over close, ugly wins really should put today's game in perspective.  That was Indiana a year or two ago.

There are currently 12 teams that have played two Big Ten games.  All twelve are 1-1.  If Michigan State loses at Northwestern on Wednesday, then all 14 teams would be 1-1.  

Bottom line, do not be upset about any win we have.

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Fellas, the Big Ten is a brutal league.   It has been for as long as I've been alive.  We're not going undefeated in the Big Ten.  Nobody is.  There will be nights we look great and nights we look awful.  When we look awful, it doesn't mean we should fire a coach or athletic director and when we look great it doesn't mean we're contenders.  Upsets happen every week.  At the end of the day, the Big Ten is either the best or second best basketball conference in the country year in and year out.  I think we'll make the NCAA tournament and be a tough out when we get there.

People panicking over close, ugly wins really should put today's game in perspective.  That was Indiana a year or two ago.  The emotional over reactions to every play, every half, and every outcome are exhausting.  Nobody who matters looks at any part of a program through that microscope.

You say people are overreacting simply because you are capable of looking at a team that has played like crap lately and see a tourney team. 
 

Your ability to imagine something doesn’t mean people are overreacting.   As of now we look to be a bubble team. We as a fan base are hoping to eek out a 10-10 record. And to be blunt usually fan bases hopes tend to be overly optimistic. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

So in two of the three games we 'played like crap', we won.

We still played like crap.


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[biteoftheapple]

Well in basketball, the team with more points always wins.....regardless of bad or poor play. That is the goal every game day.

[KzooHoosier82]

I think people overreacted in regards to the OT win. We played bad and still gutted it out. Nebraska isn’t “bad” they just have zero depth so if one of their guys has a bad night or gets in foul trouble it’s basically game over for them. If neither of those two things happen they are going to take it to you which Purdue found out first hand.

If you think beating Nebraska in OT is embarrassing ask UNC how they feel right now after booting one to Wofford at home. 

[Whoozhers]

Hoosiers couldn’t stop Huskers’ 3 or the dribble drive...... and we won.
Still feels like a loss.
Gonna chalk it up to a Christmas Miracle.
GO HOOSIERS!


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[mdn82]

You say people are overreacting simply because you are capable of looking at a team that has played like crap lately and see a tourney team.   

Your ability to imagine something doesn’t mean people are overreacting.   As of now we look to be a bubble team. We as a fan base are hoping to eek out a 10-10 record. And to be blunt usually fan bases hopes tend to be overly optimistic. 

 

I think we look like a bubble team in a normal year for sure. This is not a normal year. Most teams by now you can lock them in fairly certain to a range of what they will be if they make the tournament. This year is just off. There are no two ways around it. I am not quite 40 yet but I can’t recall a year like this in college basketball. I don’t think anybody would be happy with going 10-10. I think they would be happy with making the tournament. Most feel that would get us there and why they did they would be content with it. After last night the winner of the B1G conference is expected to have 14 wins. At 10-10 we wouldn’t be far off and that would most likely be a top 5 or 6 team. There is expected parity in conference and around college basketball this year. Just a weird year.

 

 

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[Alford Bailey]

Its that ole "eye test". Do we pass?

[mdn82]

I legit think in a normal year this team would be in the 7-10 range. I think this year that type of team ends in 5-7 range. Call it a weaker year or whatever, but teams everywhere are getting losses in a normal year that would be crushing for seeding. Just an odd year. Maybe conference is the exact opposite?


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[Honkyman]

I think one thing most on this board can agree on: Purdue was overrated going into this season.

[mdn82]

I think one thing most on this board can agree on: Purdue was overrated going into this season.

Can we even name one team in America that hasn’t looked overrated compared to what we personally expected?

 

 

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[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Can we even name one team in America that hasn’t looked overrated compared to what we personally expected?

 

 

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1. Nebraska
2. Rutgers
3. Dayton
4. Baylor
5. Butler
6. Liberty
7. Penn State
8. Indiana
9. Auburn

Immediately come to mind 

[mdn82]

 

1. Nebraska
2. Rutgers
3. Dayton
4. Baylor
5. Butler
6. Liberty
7. Penn State
8. Indiana
9. Auburn

Immediately come to mind 

Out of those teams I think 4 of them have a decent shot at a top 6 seed. 2 of which I think will be a top 4 seed. Weird year.


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[ray]

Has anyone heard anything more about Green's injury?  I read he had an injury to his achilles.  Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I only looked through the last few pages on this thread.

[biteoftheapple]

Has anyone heard anything more about Green's injury?  I read he had an injury to his achilles.  Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I only looked through the last few pages on this thread.

I would also like to know this. But, this is IU, how often do we know any injury details?