IUBB vs LA Tech Game Thread 11/25 8:30 pm BTN

[MoyeNeeded]

14 hours ago, Old Friend said:

From a coach's perspective Franklin plays great team defense, he sprints, he can play 3 positions and not hurt the team,  and does a whole lot of little things (examples : he moves his feet well defensively, gets into positions that cause problems for his opponent, recovers to and from help as well as anyone we have..he caused at least 2 turnovers that way tonight) that don't show up on a stat sheet.  But..he had more rebounds and the same number of assists as Green did.  He just didn't score the same way; and that's really not his role, anyway.

He is capable of FAR better from a production standpoint, and that absolutely needs to change at some point, but defending, taking charges and making it tough on ball handlers is his role right now.  Personally, I'd like to see him stay away from the 3 point shot for now because he's better as a cutter/slasher.  But he's getting minutes because of the things he does do well right now.

I'm concerned about Green again.  WAY too many hero plays tonight.  At least 2 horrible shots, another that was poorly timed, and 4 turnovers.  Can't have that from a senior.  He needs to eliminate mistakes and take good shots - and eliminate the "heat check" garbage altogether.  Indiana's not good enough yet to overcome their team captain giving away 6 possessions.  Green cannot be a 1:2 A/TO guy in any game this year.   He made some shots, but "bad DeVonte" came out, and it'll hurt against better teams.  He now has 6 assists and 5 turnovers on the season.  He's gotta' be better than that.

Yeah those numbers show one thing on paper but...he should have about 4/5 more assists on missed point blank shots down low from last game. That would be a 2:1 rate.

[Stuhoo]

DGreen really regressed in the entire second half.

Hopefully he watches the game film, realizes that the bad stretch was unacceptable, and continues on the far better path he’d been in.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

DGreen really regressed in the entire second half.
Hopefully he watches the game film, realizes that the bad stretch was unacceptable, and continues on the far better path he’d been in.
 

Agree. Amazing first half. Terrible 2nd half. Also true for most of the team not named Trayce.

I’m more and more impressed with TJD each game. His demeanor. His selflessness. He’s like the perfect player, teammate.


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[Uspshoosier]

Agree. Amazing first half. Terrible 2nd half. Also true for most of the team not named Trayce.

I’m more and more impressed with TJD each game. His demeanor. His selflessness. He’s like the perfect player, teammate.


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Definitely was fun watching his game grow over his 4 years of high school. His game has grown from high school to college already as well. Demeanor on the floor when things are not going well has improved significantly from high school. Kudos to him and the coaching staff on improving over the summer


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Definitely was fun watching his game grow over his 4 years of high school. His game has grown from high school to college already as well. Demeanor on the floor when things are not going well has improved significantly from high school. Kudos to him and the coaching staff on improving over the summer


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I guess I need to see how he handles losing or being down, but I don’t wanna....


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[cappymo14]

Was thinking about the conversations about how Indiana is getting to the line and getting opposing teams in foul trouble. What about the inverse? I don’t believe we have had many players in foul trouble yet. Can’t remember many. I believe Brunk and TJD might have had four against N. Florida? Any others? This could also be a sign of improvement on defense over previous. Defending without fouling is always a big deal to me, depth or not.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Was thinking about the conversations about how Indiana is getting to the line and getting opposing teams in foul trouble. What about the inverse? I don’t believe we have had many players in foul trouble yet. Can’t remember many. I believe Brunk and TJD might have had four against N. Florida? Any others? This could also be a sign of improvement on defense over previous. Defending without fouling is always a big deal to me, depth or not.


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Some of that could be we are facing smaller teams that are jacking up a lot of 3s. And a lot of open 3s. Time will tell when we face equal size and athletes.


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[Bobman1]

Probably both


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Totally forgot about Al. Controversial opinion on here but I’d rather have Green start.


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[cappymo14]

Some of that could be we are facing smaller teams that are jacking up a lot of 3s. And a lot of open 3s. Time will tell when we face equal size and athletes.


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Well, I feel like Brunk might see some of his minutes decreased via the ol’ first half penalty box. Possibly TJD as well, being a freshman shot blocker and all. Thing is, I think our makeup actually allows us to foul freely if needed. Could help in the B1G against teams that can’t make them pay for it.


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[RaceToTheTop]

Starting is fo suckas.  Who finishes?

[Old Friend]

5 hours ago, MoyeNeeded said:

Yeah those numbers show one thing on paper but...he should have about 4/5 more assists on missed point blank shots down low from last game. That would be a 2:1 rate.

Doesn't matter to me one bit what should have happened.  I saw his 4 turnovers and heat check shots.  Can't have them.  

[Old Friend]

1 hour ago, Bobman1 said:

Totally forgot about Al. Controversial opinion on here but I’d rather have Green start.


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He started the 2nd half last night, didn't he?  Didn't work out so well.

[Uspshoosier]

He started the 2nd half last night, didn't he?  Didn't work out so well.

He didn’t start the second half last night.


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[MoyeNeeded]

3 hours ago, Bobman1 said:

Totally forgot about Al. Controversial opinion on here but I’d rather have Green start.


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Yes because there are too many on here that will not change their opinions on certain players ie Smith and Green even if they put up 20+ but have a few turnovers.

[MoyeNeeded]

1 hour ago, Old Friend said:

He started the 2nd half last night, didn't he?  Didn't work out so well.

As opposed to Al who also had 5 to's and looked sloppy as hell in the 2nd half like the rest of the team minus TDJ.

[Old Friend]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

He didn’t start the second half last night.


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Then I stand corrected.  Mea culpa

[Old Friend]

45 minutes ago, MoyeNeeded said:

As opposed to Al who also had 5 to's and looked sloppy as hell in the 2nd half like the rest of the team minus TDJ.

Al didn't take heat check shots.   But yes..the whole team was sloppy last night.  Green just doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of his past.  Every sportswriter in town wrote about "bad DeVonte" today.  I'm not the dissenting opposition, here.

[Alford Bailey]

Ive said it a 100 times. Guys who expect Green to suddenly become a different player are gonna be disappointed.

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Alford Bailey said:

Ive said it a 100 times. Guys who expect Green to suddenly become a different player are gonna be disappointed.

Without the steady hand of Phinisee I don’t think very many people expected Green to be different. 

[RaceToTheTop]

In the end, "bad DeVonte" was 6 of 11 from the floor and 3 of 5 three.  I'd say that his couple of extra turnovers were balanced out by scoring 15 points on 11 shots.